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re: Jarrett Lee vs West Virginia

Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:44 am to
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:44 am to
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Because Les Miles hates you and did it to piss you off.

I knew it ! I just knew it ! Another one of his crowning successes.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:40 am to
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I really wish Miles had started Lee in the second half so we wouldn't have to hear this crap. The end result would have been the same and the second guessers could move on to the next thing.


Some of the Lee supporters would have just screamed that Les should have started him and that he never had a chance to get into a rhythm. They weren't going to be satisfied after they thought that Lee was somehow slighted when JJ was let back on the team and named the starter.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58549 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:57 am to
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The end result would have been the same and the second guessers could move on to the next thing. Lee was not the answer.


Another guy who knows the winning lottery numbers! There are so many of you here. Please tell the rest of us!!
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:28 am to
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If someone had a pic of Lee face after Hightower threw him down, there was NO DOUBT he wasn't feeling it




First hit on Lee
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:33 am to
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Another guy who knows the winning lottery numbers! There are so many of you here. Please tell the rest of us!!



This is silly. How do YOU know at the time that JJ wasn't going to turn it around and move the offense? All either side has to go on at the time the decision is being made is both players' past performances.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58549 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:39 am to
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How do YOU know at the time that JJ wasn't going to turn it around and move the offense?


I never said I did or would have.


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All either side has to go on at the time the decision is being made is both players' past performances.


No shite. You sound smart.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:48 am to
I think most people dont think Lee wouldve made a diff and the way our line was playing, may have been worse than JJ( kind of hard to do) but they are upset he at least didnt get a shot or that we didn't try something. It's the title game. You try everything in the arsenal and then you dont have the what ifs.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 11:52 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58549 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:53 am to
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I think most people dont think Lee wouldve made a diff and the way our line was playing, may have been worse than JJ( kind of hard to do) but theu are upset he at least didnt get a shot or that we didn't try something. It's the title game. You try everything in the arsenal and then you dont have the what ifs.



This is generally the way I feel. Of course playing the numbers the way Miles did by keeping JJ in was absolutely reasonable and arguably the best choice. Plus, despite the anemic offense, the defense was keeping us close and it was reasonable to gamble on a break at some point. I'm just of the mindset that on such a big stage, you may have to go all in sooner rather than later.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:54 am to
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Miles legacy:

1. Owned by Saban

2. Says dumb things

3. JL v JJ

(In any order you like)


Only to football ignorant people.

1. Winningest coach in lsu history.
2. #1 ooc win % in sec history
3. 7th best win % in sec history


But hey im actually a lsu fan and dont go out of my way to shite on the best coaching tenure in lsu history.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:57 am to
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Plus, despite the anemic offense, the defense was keeping us close and it was reasonable to gamble on a break at some point. I'm just of the mindset that on such a big stage, you may have to go all in sooner rather than later.


Midway through the 3rd quarter I'm yelling at the tv," the fricking option isnt working, you have to try something else!"
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 12:38 pm to
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ever heard the saying that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insane peoplerson might would do?


You mean like trying the same thing over and over again with JJ against Bama in the NC?

Thanks for proving my point

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So Jefferson had just won the "game of the century" vs bama a few months earlier in the season so rightly so got the nod a


Did you even read what I wrote? I don't have a problem with JJ getting the nod against Bama.

But in the last 8 quarters of the season, JJ combined for 83 yards passing with 2 turnovers. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. After 7 quarters of bad QB play, make the switch. It probably wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game, but try using your own logic.

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boxcar willie



of course
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 1:07 pm to
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Still don't get why he didn't play in the national championship


Let it go, huh? Its like picking a scab.

Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:11 pm to
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You mean like trying the same thing over and over again with JJ against Bama in the NC?


so by your definition going with what has never worked against Alabama (inserting Lee) would be better than staying with what has worked quite well in the past against Bama (Jefferson) would have been the better course.

Like the saying goes 'the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over (playing Lee against Bama) and expecting a different result (Lee having success against Bama)

At least with Jefferson we have had success in the past against Bama thus proving Miles is not insane.


We were still in the game so Miles had to go with the better option that gave us a possibility (though a long shot) for success. We were still trying to win the game. If we had thrown in the towel, as ya'll seem to have wanted to, I would be all for letting Lee get in the game. I liked Lee a lot and would have been very worried about the long term consequences to his health and well being if he would have got in that game.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:51 pm to
According to a lot of people, Lee had checked out v Bama in Tuscaloosa and was just marking time.
Apparently he bailed on the team.

That's the only logical conclusion. As poorly as JJ played he would have been pulled for Lee early on just as Lee got pulled in Tuscaloosa.

I'm guessing Miles say what bam was doing to JJ and didn't want to play Mett and get him killed or lese Mett would have given it a go. But that's just my guess.

Now everyone focuses on JJ and how bad he played, but he certainly wasn't the only one. Our OL played a terrible game too.

It's almost as if Bama knew our plays and was in the huddle with us because they beat us off the snap, at the point of attack, and handled us as if we were in high school.
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