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It’s going to seem ridiculous this year with granting players a 5th but..
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:37 am
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:37 am
If we were all able to get pass the idea of Trinidad playing a six year at Ole Miss we all should be ok with guys getting a fifth year with the rule change I mean everyone knows the goal for these kids is to make it to the NFL but when your a late round pick or undrafted free agent it would make all the sense in the world to come back and make the money in college most of these kids won’t have nfl careers so as a parent you woukd most def rather your son have a head start at life with the NIL opportunities just in case he didn’t make it in the NFL and had to start Life with a regular job so it will look kind of cheesy his first season, knowing that we’ve seen some some of these kids play preseason ball and then come back to college after this year. You won’t notice it the same because these kids will make a decision prior to entering the draft just think about it Jac Piburn, knowing he had a fifth year would have never entered the draft knowing he was gonna go on drafted he would have came back for fifth year and try to raise his draft stop and that’s the whole point
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:41 am to Bsnightlife
Punctuation. Paragraphs. Use them.

Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:45 am to Bsnightlife
You used one comma and zero periods in your diatribe
That is impressive.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:47 am to idlewatcher
quote:Must be off his period right now.
You used one comma and zero periods in your diatribeThat is impressive.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:49 am to Bsnightlife
It makes financial sense for the players. It doesn't make sense for the game as a whole. That's all of the players, Chambliss, Pyburn, the LSU basketball commits, etc. But this is the competitive marketplace LSU has to exist in. If your competitors are doing it and you aren't, then you are operating at a competitive disadvantage.
NIL being "capped" simply isn't going to happen. Same for any sort of "salary cap" (at least in the foreseeable future) or transfer restrictions (like the old sit out a year rule). The one thing the NCAA MAY be able to control is eligibility. Otherwise, we are truly going to have professional "college" players. That is players who have 8, 9, 10+ year college careers with no meaningful intention to try to play pro ball (because they just aren't good enough to command the "salary" they can make as a college player).
5 for 5 is at least a step in that direction. It was always going to be challenged in the courts, immediately. But hopefully going forward the rule clears up a lot of the ambiguity on eligibility issues.
NIL being "capped" simply isn't going to happen. Same for any sort of "salary cap" (at least in the foreseeable future) or transfer restrictions (like the old sit out a year rule). The one thing the NCAA MAY be able to control is eligibility. Otherwise, we are truly going to have professional "college" players. That is players who have 8, 9, 10+ year college careers with no meaningful intention to try to play pro ball (because they just aren't good enough to command the "salary" they can make as a college player).
5 for 5 is at least a step in that direction. It was always going to be challenged in the courts, immediately. But hopefully going forward the rule clears up a lot of the ambiguity on eligibility issues.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:53 am to idlewatcher
I used the voice option to post this but this not English class we’re making post about sports it’s not that deep for me to worry about if I used commas correctly lol smh but go tigers
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:53 am to Bsnightlife
LSU is currently in training camp & players have been fighting to move up the depth chart & earn playing time… bringing in guys now that have been in an NFL training camp to fill that playing time just seems wrong and doesn’t feel like college football, but that’s the era we are in now I guess
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:02 am to Bsnightlife
It sounds like the LSU coaching staff has already looked at the list of nearly 2000 players that could potentially come back. They are ahead of this.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:13 am to JimTiger72
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LSU is currently in training camp & players have been fighting to move up the depth chart & earn playing time… bringing in guys now that have been in an NFL training camp to fill that playing time just seems wrong and doesn’t feel like college football, but that’s the era we are in now I guess
That's true. However, the current college players want to be treated as quasi professionals. What you described is the nature of the NFL. There are guys competing for jobs in training camp right now while at the same time the front offices/scouts are constantly looking outside of the roster for potentially better players
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:24 am to Alt26
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There are guys competing for jobs in training camp right now while at the same time the front offices/scouts are constantly looking outside of the roster for potentially better players
That’s fine, but that is the NFL & all of those guys are in NFL training camps. Taking a guy from Tampa Bay & bringing him to the saints is just business
Bringing guys that are currently in an NFL training camp to join LSU’s training camp seems like a bigger step
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:30 am to Bsnightlife
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I used the voice option to post this but this not English class we’re making post about sports it’s not that deep for me to worry about if I used commas correctly lol smh but go tigers
Respectfully, we're not hearing you speak, are we? You can insert a period when using voice-to-text.
I'm now curious - how did you include the lower case "lol" and "smh" using the voice option?
Love you.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:11 am to JimTiger72
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LSU is currently in training camp & players have been fighting to move up the depth chart & earn playing time… bringing in guys now that have been in an NFL training camp to fill that playing time just seems wrong and doesn’t feel like college football,
This is my biggest issue too. It sucks for college guys busting their asses all year and all camp trying to earn a spot in a rotation only to get bumped by some guys who were literally playing in official NFL preseason games the week before. It feels gross and will have unintended consequences. Young guys who feel slighted will transfer. Guys you may have been counting on to have huge roles next year. Sure, you can replace them in the portal, but it’s always more expensive to get a new player than it is to retain one (churn in business is a huge thing).
More importantly, you’ll be replacing guys already familiar with your system with guys that aren’t. That’s going to happen anyway, obviously, but the less, the better. Let’s take the freshman DE Henderson, for example, because Lane mentioned him as the 4th true freshman they think have had a good camp and will likely see meaningful snaps. And this is completely hypothetical btw. But say they see him as a 7 on a 1-10 scale and project him to be an 8 next year and battle for a starting spot or to at least be in the 2 deep. We get Pyburn back, and that bumps Henderson down to where he barely plays anything but garbage time reps.
He gets pissed and decides to leave. Had he played this year as much as he expected to, it would have cost $100k to retain him. He’s gone. Now you have to pay $200k for another player at his position with the same 8 grade. For the purpose of this hypothetical, let’s just say it’s his twin brother and they are exactly the same player. You are now paying the exact same player twice the money AND he’s got to learn a completely new system, so he will be behind. Again, this will happen regardless, but you want to keep those situations as limited as possible.
However, I agree with Alt, especially on 1 point that I made in another thread. As long as these are the “rules,” you are forced to play the game to prevent being at a competitive disadvantage. It’s almost more important that you block some of these guys from going to other schools to prevent them from getting better than it is to take them to make your own team better. We don’t NEED Pyburn or the 3 Ole Miss players. But we can’t afford to let Ole Miss get them all. Or 3 of the 4.
It sucks, it’s gross, I hate it. But we have to play the game as long as other teams are.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:13 am to Alt26
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NIL being "capped" simply isn't going to happen. Same for any sort of "salary cap" (at least in the foreseeable future) or transfer restrictions (like the old sit out a year rule). The one thing the NCAA MAY be able to control is eligibility
I think the only eligibility rule the NCAA can enforce is requiring the athlete be enrolled in school.
NIL limits, salary caps, transfer rules are all a violation of free trade. This is now about antitrust and labor laws. Only two things can empower the NCAA and neither look likely to happen.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:29 am to Hot Carl
The kid I feel sorry for is the one who is told he has made the 105-player cut and is on the team, but is then told "Sorry, Pyburn is going to take your spot on the roster."
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:36 am to ScotReiver
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The kid I feel sorry for is the one who is told he has made the 105-player cut and is on the team, but is then told "Sorry, Pyburn is going to take your spot on the roster."
I made that exact same point in the post in the other thread too. I’ll go ahead and post it over here too. But be aware, it’s long. (And so is my post).
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:38 am to Hot Carl
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This is my biggest issue too. It sucks for college guys busting their asses all year and all camp trying to earn a spot in a rotation only to get bumped by some guys who were literally playing in official NFL preseason games the week before. It feels gross and will have unintended consequences. Young guys who feel slighted will transfer. Guys you may
The House settlement already killed the notion of a walk-on athlete at most schools. When unlimited eligibility comes around there isn’t going to be a place for many young players. When the LSU QB has an 8 year contract where does the HS kid go to develop?
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 11:19 am
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:41 am to Motownsix
Yeah, as an objective fan of college football and taking off my LSU fandom, this particular absurdity is too much for me. I think it’s worse—way worse—than the Chambliss thing. I just can’t get past the image of Pyburn in a Bucs uniform having 2 sacks in an official NFL preseason game, and then eventually winding up back in college. It’s gross.
But I’m just using Pyburn because I actually saw it and know him. The same would go for any other guys who played in an NFL preseason game. That’s just a line I don’t think you should be able to cross and come back from. Think about how pissed off some of young college players who have been busting their asses all offseason, all training camp, doing everything they can to earn a spot in a rotation who finally do, are elated and proud of their hard work, then right before the season some 23-year-old who’s been in an NFL program practicing and playing against NFL guys, gets cut because of numbers one day, and the next is in the 2-deep rotation at your school, bumping you off and out to where you have to wait another year to try to do it all over again.
I’m not taking about the Princewills or Rosses, but the Carpenters, Cobbins, Braikers, Hendersons. Or the guys at the back end of rosters that will be “asked” to go to JUCO for a year and come back to open a roster spot, knowing that roster spot for next year is anything but guaranteed. I just think this will have some unintended consequences that will be bad for the sport overall, and some of the human beings actually affected.
I know some will say, “frick them, they’re getting paid now, deal with it” because for whatever reason, there’s a significant group of people who are under the impression that all college athletes are suddenly millionaires because of NIL. Which is ridiculous.
But I wouldn’t blame Pyburn or any other player in his situation for coming back and taking advantage of this. Not would I blame Kiffin or any other coach who welcomes them back. They kind of have to. I’d bet the majority of college coaches don’t like this. Just too much disruption right before the season. But Lane, for example, can’t not do it if his competitors are doing it. Him taking a moral, “in the best interest of college football” stance would be dereliction if Golding or any other coach of an SEC or P4 program weren’t doing the same.
Of the 15 or so players mentioned, you’ve got Pyburn and 3 Ole Miss guys. Could we use them? Of course? Would they make us better? Obviously. (Unless it causes locker room issues, which is very real possibility—another unintended consequence). Do we NEED them? No. But we also can’t afford them all winding up at Ole Miss. So you almost have to take them to block the other schools from getting better as much as you do in order to make your own team better.
Again, this all just feels gross. But I don’t even know who to blame. Don’t blame the players who get to continue their football careers back in college and get paid to do so. Don’t blame the coaches who are forced to do it in order to not have a competitive disadvantage. Don’t blame the NCAA—remember, these players are still ineligible per the NCAA rules—whose authority has been deemed feckless by court after court after court. (They did frick up royally on the timing of the announcement of 5 for 5, though). Not sure I even blame the courts, who are just ruling based on their interpretation of current law. I don’t know. I guess it just is what it is. But I hate it.
But I’m just using Pyburn because I actually saw it and know him. The same would go for any other guys who played in an NFL preseason game. That’s just a line I don’t think you should be able to cross and come back from. Think about how pissed off some of young college players who have been busting their asses all offseason, all training camp, doing everything they can to earn a spot in a rotation who finally do, are elated and proud of their hard work, then right before the season some 23-year-old who’s been in an NFL program practicing and playing against NFL guys, gets cut because of numbers one day, and the next is in the 2-deep rotation at your school, bumping you off and out to where you have to wait another year to try to do it all over again.
I’m not taking about the Princewills or Rosses, but the Carpenters, Cobbins, Braikers, Hendersons. Or the guys at the back end of rosters that will be “asked” to go to JUCO for a year and come back to open a roster spot, knowing that roster spot for next year is anything but guaranteed. I just think this will have some unintended consequences that will be bad for the sport overall, and some of the human beings actually affected.
I know some will say, “frick them, they’re getting paid now, deal with it” because for whatever reason, there’s a significant group of people who are under the impression that all college athletes are suddenly millionaires because of NIL. Which is ridiculous.
But I wouldn’t blame Pyburn or any other player in his situation for coming back and taking advantage of this. Not would I blame Kiffin or any other coach who welcomes them back. They kind of have to. I’d bet the majority of college coaches don’t like this. Just too much disruption right before the season. But Lane, for example, can’t not do it if his competitors are doing it. Him taking a moral, “in the best interest of college football” stance would be dereliction if Golding or any other coach of an SEC or P4 program weren’t doing the same.
Of the 15 or so players mentioned, you’ve got Pyburn and 3 Ole Miss guys. Could we use them? Of course? Would they make us better? Obviously. (Unless it causes locker room issues, which is very real possibility—another unintended consequence). Do we NEED them? No. But we also can’t afford them all winding up at Ole Miss. So you almost have to take them to block the other schools from getting better as much as you do in order to make your own team better.
Again, this all just feels gross. But I don’t even know who to blame. Don’t blame the players who get to continue their football careers back in college and get paid to do so. Don’t blame the coaches who are forced to do it in order to not have a competitive disadvantage. Don’t blame the NCAA—remember, these players are still ineligible per the NCAA rules—whose authority has been deemed feckless by court after court after court. (They did frick up royally on the timing of the announcement of 5 for 5, though). Not sure I even blame the courts, who are just ruling based on their interpretation of current law. I don’t know. I guess it just is what it is. But I hate it.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:42 am to Hot Carl
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However, I agree with Alt, especially on 1 point that I made in another thread. As long as these are the “rules,” you are forced to play the game to prevent being at a competitive disadvantage
In legal cases the NCAA either won or lost in the last 40 years it was based on the court feeling compelled to accept the protection of competition and amateurism as a reason for the NCAA to violate antitrust laws. That defense used by the NCAA is being almost completely rejected at this point.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:46 am to Hot Carl
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Don’t blame the NCAA—remember, these players are still ineligible per the NCAA rules—whose authority has been deemed feckless by court after court after court.
The NCAA knew they were operating what people call a plantation system that was being propped up by some really shaky legal arguments. They’ve known this since at least 1984. This was inevitable unless they got out ahead of it, and they chose not to do anything but rule like a tyrant. The NCAA failed to save themselves from themselves and in the process they destroyed college athletics.
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