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re: It is too much money to fire McMahon

Posted on 2/12/26 at 4:11 am to
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5020 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 4:11 am to
If college baseball is a major sport, why is the TV contract for that major sport MICROSCOPIC??

Cuz not a stargaze says so, and that's that.

SOLID ARGUMENT!!!
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21912 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:30 am to
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I saw yet another post about me after you LIED and said you wouldn't direct posts at me anymore about this subject. I have reported your post yet again.


Hahahahaha



Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
3085 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:37 am to
As I've said umpteen times but apparently you can't read, I don't give a shite what the networks broadcast or don't broadcast. The measure of whether a sport in college is MAJOR is how many schools want to participate. With over 300 schools choosing baseball as one of their sports, that makes it a MAJOR sport. Once again, I just backed up my claim with a FACT!
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5020 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:40 am to
Swat, I know you're on a roll here with the "a successful team wouldn't produce more revenue fallacy", but you can't ignore facts.

Each tournament game a team plays in is worth a $2 million unit that goes to the SEC and gets distributed among conference members. However, the team that earned that unit gets more than 1/16th of a share of that unit. So the better you do, the more revenue for the program.

If we had a consistent winner (pretend we kept Wade and never hired this "coach"), it's HIGHLY LIKELY we have 10,000+ attendance with regular sellouts. Certainly for league games, and a lot of non conference also.

Add up the additional ticket sales, merchandise, concessions, parking, and you're talking about a significant amount of cash.

LSU made a profit in the vicinity of $1-1.5 million in basketball last year. It's been reported Bama and Tennessee are in the $10-12 million range. What makes you think LSU would be any different than those schools with a winning basketball program?


Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18690 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:42 am to
I'm not a fire the coach guy, I'm really not - but we can't afford not to.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5020 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:43 am to
I don't give a damn what anyone says either, assfluck. Today is MONDAY, and you or no one else can tell me differently.

How do you successfully navigate your way through life with the mental state you're in???
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18690 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:45 am to
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The fact is the Gov wants Wade. The boosters do not.


You must know different boosters than I do.

I'd love to have the General but I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on that one - But there's another WW out there - just have to find him, or get lucky.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
3085 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:47 am to
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I don't know if you're right or not, but if you are LSU just needs to just shut down the program.

Agree 100% and have stated that and then the loons came out with personal attacks. LSU has 2 logical choices 1) prove to the LSU fans that it gives a damn about LSU men's basketball and fire an incompetent coach who has had 4 years to show ANY improvement 2) just shut down men's basketball as there are many division 1 schools who don't participate in sports that even other teams in their conference do. Examples I gave were Iowa State and Colorado in the Big 12, Wisconsin in the Big 10, and SMU in the past. All were in baseball BTW.

If LSU isn't going to attempt to be competitive in men's basketball, why even try to play the game. Don't know if the SEC has a rule requiring LSU to play men's basketball, but if they don't, that should be considered. The program is the laughing stock of college basketball right now.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
3085 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:49 am to
Clearly by the posts exchanges, I'm not a mentally ill, despicable excuse of a human being like you obviously are. BTW, MOST people aren't stupid enough to brag about just getting an alter if banned...I said "most".
This post was edited on 2/12/26 at 6:52 am
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2753 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:04 am to
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With over 300 schools choosing baseball as one of their sports, that makes it a MAJOR sport. Once again, I just backed up my claim with a FACT!


By your logic, there are more minor league baseball teams than there are major league baseball teams. Ergo, the minors are the majors and the majors are minor?

Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24370 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:08 am to
Actually that’s pretty easy to figure out, look at what bama makes because they have a team that can reach the tourny. Keeping MM keeps us from that
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5020 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:11 am to
I've never used another name, have been on here almost 20 years.

If a spineless twat like you ran to administration and got me banned (the horror!!!), I'm just pointing out that it would be pointless, exactly like your opinions here.

With a few clicks, I'm back on. Who cares if I had to change my user name to "notastargazer has severe mental problems"?
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
3085 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:12 am to
That attempted analogy makes absolutely 0 sense. The majors are the majors in MLB because the BETTER players are there. In college in DIVISION 1, there are not any other levels of baseball. BTW, the 300+ teams in college are only Division 1. That doesn't include I assume hundreds more that play in the other divisions. One such example is the LSU-S Pilots who won the NC last season in their division and were undefeated.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
3085 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:14 am to
Learn to read English. I NEVER said you had been banned before. I said you were bragging about coming back under another userid...you said that, Mr Dementia. BTW, you can change your username to anything. Your mental illness and utter stupidity will follow you. Cowardly punk!
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72306 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:20 am to
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He did not. He said that was the expectation, and if they didn't reach that, they would evaluate the circumstances.



Not much of a context clue guy, are you
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24370 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:22 am to
Look PK is a rim expert not a detective
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72306 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:32 am to
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I think McMahon is gone soon, but it’s not because the program would make a significant more amount of money. You’re making a lot of assumptions about basketball finances that are just wrong.



Again, if you think the basketball program is making about the same kind of money never making the tournament, having an empty arean game after game vs. making the tournament, putting 10k butts in the seats...then you are clearly way WAY out of touch.

It's not even just the extra revenue, its the booster support. When teams are doing good, people pony up more money. Basketball is no different. You think if womens basketball was this bad under some no name coach anyone would give them anything?

It's money across the board, not just pure top line which also obviously increases as you win/play more games and put way more fans in the seats.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30983 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:35 am to
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Go look at the financials.
Have you actually looked at them?
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3142 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:57 am to
Honest question, could his role be curtailed and bring in a promising new assistant to take over core coaching duties? Put McMahon on the road recruiting and in the office. Officially transition assistant to new head coach when contract expires. We get some residual value from contract and McMahon saves face/has time to posture for a new role (no one is hiring him as a HC again.)
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35593 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 8:01 am to
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Again, if you think the basketball program is making about the same kind of money never making the tournament, having an empty arean game after game vs. making the tournament, putting 10k butts in the seats...then you are clearly way WAY out of touch.


These are rough numbers, but in 2019, before Mulkey arrived, LSU reported ~$97k in ticket sales. In FY 2024, LSU reported (nearly) $1.4M in ticket sales for WBB. That is a pretty significant increase in just ticket sales brought about by having a great program.

Would the men's team have such a massive increase? Maybe not. But I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that LSU is leaving multiple millions (all told) on the table by having such a bad program, likely much more.

LSU fans are no different than any other fans. They will support winners. A winning basketball program is obviously going to sell much more tickets, it's going to allow LSU to raise the price of those tickets, it would allow LSU to be invited to some of the bigger holiday tournaments (which can be a significant source of income), LSU would reach the NCAA Tournament...which a source of income, it will increase donations because people like supporting winners

Right now LSU MBB just "exists". It hasn't come close to filling the PMAC in 4 years. It's totally irrelevant on a national stage, and locally there is little interest.

Does it suck that LSU has been so bad for the last four years and its long overdue for a coaching change? Of course. But kicking the can down the road isn't really going to "save" much, if anything. The results will not get significantly better, which will only further decrease the already low interests, and the costs of doing business (coaching salaries, player "salaries") are only going to increase. It's time for LSU to cut its losses, move on from McMahon, and restart the process of trying to become a great program. The good news though is that process can be quicker than ever before. Literally just one season with the right HC
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