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re: It appears the "Death Valley" experience has gotten worse in last five years. (Long)

Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
15416 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:32 pm to
The early 2000s were the best. Even before the ‘03 championship the 9/11 ‘01 Auburn game, 2000 Tennessee Game, ‘01 Bama game, 2000 MSU game all had incredible atmospheres. Tops in my life was the ‘03 UGA game. The entire campus was buzzing at 6am and was relentless the entire game.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49688 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:36 pm to
The peak was 1996 to about 2007.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8500 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:36 pm to
Went to the a&m game last year.. it was a fricking ghost town and felt super corporate walking around campus.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118252 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:45 pm to
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The peak was 1996 to about 2007.




Agreed.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16146 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

it was a fricking ghost town and felt super corporate walking around campus.


The atmosphere is always lacking for that game because school is out.

I am curious what this board considered corporate?
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
1605 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:45 pm to
I agree with the posters that the stadium and campus atmosphere has gone downhill in the last 10-15 years . When I was in school the team sucked but the tailgating was amazing . Of course it was first come on the good spots.
Drinking age was 18 and people let a lot more idiotic behavior slide . Move on to today . I live several hours away and still have season tics . I am not however going to drive to watch us play non-conference opponents and put up with a tailgating and stadium atmosphere that suck compared to 15 years ago. I know the sunshine pumpers will come in here and say well give up your tics. For the games I can’t make I try and rarely find takers unless it’s a big SEC matchup. The cost of making the trip plus tics is starting to be a toss up on wether or not I should keep them . It’s not the travel hell I drove two hours further this weekend to watch the game with friends. It’s just not that great of an experience anymore
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105308 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:49 pm to
The next AD will continue the monetization of gameday. He may be better at PR about it but the old days are never coming back until the whole college sports house of cards collapses. Which may not be far off.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 9:50 pm
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10687 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:01 pm to
Five years later I added downvotes to ballscaster and chair’s a-hole replies.
Posted by GEAUX5
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:06 pm to
It doesnt help either with students leaving in herds after the first quarter so they can be the first in line for Fred's.
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2993 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:12 pm to
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 Instead of traditions that are unique to Tiger Stadium, Tiger Stadium now sounds more like every other stadium in the country. No more Neck. No Tiger Rag. The songs unique to LSU that make it special.


Neck a "tradition"? Please.

Don't even try and compare it to Tiger Rag. It IS a shame that in the early '90s, the student section had to ruin Tiger Rag with (relatively mild, but still) vulgar chants. Now we've graduated to "STTDB".

To quote Homer Stokes, "That's not MY culture and heritage!"

The rest of your post has some really valid and great points, but overwhelming, classless vulgarity in Tiger Stadium has NEVER been an "LSU tradition".

--LSU '86.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 10:13 am
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1882 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:44 pm to
I went to the game yesterday and the TV timeouts are killing the flow of the game....

That is what is killing it for me anyway
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1634 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 11:14 pm to
We went to the LSU SELU game. It's probably been 2 or 3 years since I've been to a game.

The need to play piped in music between each play is annoying and the advertising lights are distracting.

Can't they just have the band and play the game? I think the jumbotron is a complete waste of money. We have tickets to LSU vs MSU but I'm trying to find a way out of going.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16146 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 11:36 pm to
I would bet 100$ campus athmosphere would instantly get better if the program was consistently winning big games again.
Posted by happy hour 2
Ascension
Member since Aug 2014
391 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:03 am to
LSU has taken the common man out of the fun.
I started with Krewe of Ragoo in 2000
All fun people. The entire lot in front of Field House and Natatorium were open. Now it's just grass. LSU lost another 2000 common folk fans
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:23 am to
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LSU has taken the common man out of the fun.


Yes. I have written about this before. It has become so expensive to have season tickets, Bubba cannot afford it. You might think what difference that makes. Well, Bubba would stay the entire game no matter what. The new LSU fan (who took Bubba's tickets) would rather stay home (or leave early/after everyone has seen him/her).
Also, Joe has ruined the atmosphere because of money (football and basketball). from bad coaching hires to commercials to corporate sponsorship to no more 7:00 pm games.
Thanks Joe.
Posted by 1MileTiger
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jun 2011
1839 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:45 am to
Y'all are going to downvote the shite out of me, but what if I told you the gameday experience has everything to do with cost, convenience, and quality of product?

Yes, Aleva is sucking a lot of the fun out of the tailgating experience and the game experience. At the end of the day though, watching the games from home with family and friends has surpassed the desire to sit in hours of traffic and pay outrageous prices to "enjoy" another loss to Alabama.

60" 4K LED TVs are dirt cheap. You can stock your fridge with booze for the cost of getting a few drinks at the game. You can cook your jambalaya outside while drinking Bud Light and cranking Wayne Toups. When Bama goes up by 21 on you, you can walk your drunk arse to bed and pass out.

They could make parking free, play Neck and Tiger Rag, finally figure out contraflow, allow booze in the stadium, and you still wouldn't see a huge change in attendance. It's 2018 and our homes are almost as good as being there in person.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42293 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 5:14 am to
quote:

The rest of your post has some really valid and great points, but overwhelming, classless vulgarity in Tiger Stadium has NEVER been an "LSU tradition".


Watching the Shaq and Dale documentary and the student section Call latner a **** says otherwise
Posted by Tiger_Stripes
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
903 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 5:55 am to
It's the fans.
I know several people who profess to be the biggest LSU fans around. They leave to go to the bar at halftime, no matter what the game status is. Their family has had the bomb arse tickets since 1945 and they are spoiled, much like many of the fans and students.

Seems like people are bigger fans of alcoholism than they are Tiger football.

Or fat and lazy:
quote:

Y'all are going to downvote the shite out of me, but what if I told you the gameday experience has everything to do with cost, convenience, and quality of product? Yes, Aleva is sucking a lot of the fun out of the tailgating experience and the game experience. At the end of the day though, watching the games from home with family and friends has surpassed the desire to sit in hours of traffic and pay outrageous prices to "enjoy" another loss to Alabama. 60" 4K LED TVs are dirt cheap. You can stock your fridge with booze for the cost of getting a few drinks at the game. You can cook your jambalaya outside while drinking Bud Light and cranking Wayne Toups. When Bama goes up by 21 on you, you can walk your drunk arse to bed and pass out. They could make parking free, play Neck and Tiger Rag, finally figure out contraflow, allow booze in the stadium, and you still wouldn't see a huge change in attendance. It's 2018 and our homes are almost as good as being there in person.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 5:58 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:20 am to
As someone said, the peak was 1996 - 2007. There is no going back to those glorious years of tailgating. It is just hard for everyone to accept that because we all remember how amazing it was.

It took years to build it up and many or most of the people I know who made it strong have tapped out. They planned and organized the tailgates. They did it for years and many took it over from others. Many of us saw this building in the 90s (or earlier).

When LSU killed the common man they took out a generation of tailgaters and they cannot be replaced. No matter what LSU does it ain’t coming back. You cannot snap your fingers and create that.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20877 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:08 am to
If AU lays a 2017 Ms St a-- whipping on us this Saturday - ALLEVA needs to be fired.
The charade and fraud on long term fans needs to be terminated immediately.
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