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Is SEC pitching across the board better than ever?

Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:24 pm
As they say, good pitching will beat good hitting more often than not and no one will argue against the SEC being the best for talent.

So question leads me to the possible conclusion, that this is why all SEC teams have lacked in overall production this year. Not necessarily the quality of the guys who are in the lineup.

With the NIL recruits stay in school for longer periods and or totally forgo the draft, with players being able to earn and develop in great college cities/towns now, rather than some podunk town in the NorthEast where all the choices in women become your slumpbusters.

Just has to be something to the inconsistency we have seen this year especially with our Tigers.

But saying all that, I’m very optimistic with our ability to get some bats on balls against non SEC Foes this weekend.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24260 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:43 pm to
It’s “stuff”ier than ever. I’m not convinced it’s “better” per se.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86756 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:48 pm to
Everyone is better. I don’t think there’s any denying that. Multiple teams some with multiple guys throwing 100+. Same can be said for hitters who can get to that (what used to be elusive) 110 mph exit speed.
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
626 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 5:00 pm to
Skip would be a great coach today but when he built this program only LSU and Miss St cared about BB.The pitching was nowhere near where it is today. That’s why a team with the hitters LSU has has been struggling.All SEC teams have had a difficult time at the plate during this season.Pitching will only get better with transfers and NIL getting more talent to go to college.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
6223 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 5:21 pm to
It also didn’t hurt that Skip had some Baws dedicated to the secret sauce and nutrition of the mid late 90’s during our Gorilla era.
Posted by Joev1
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
108 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 5:39 pm to
It definitely has harder throwers. I think strikeouts are higher across the board since they changed the laces. You have guys like Nola and gausman who are arguably some of the best pitchers in the world who didn’t have K/inn like guys have today
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
1644 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Baws dedicated to the secret sauce and nutrition of the mid late 90’s during our Gorilla era.

Key word sauce
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47300 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:02 pm to
Everything SEC baseball is better than ever. This years LSU team is the most talented we’ve ever had. The pitching staff is, by far, the best we’ve ever fielded. It’s the portal that’s doing it. LSU has guys on the bench who would be starting if not for the portal. So do most SEC teams.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282521 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:22 pm to
I just watched some highlights of the 2008 UCI super regional game. Todays game is light years ahead of that.

Everyone is a robo player today. Mechanically similar.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48659 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Everything SEC baseball is better than ever. This years LSU team is the most talented we’ve ever had. The pitching staff is, by far, the best we’ve ever fielded. It’s the portal that’s doing it. LSU has guys on the bench who would be starting if not for the portal. So do most SEC teams.


You're 100% right but nostalgia will make people question you.
Between the portal and NIL, we have players on this team that would never be on any team in LSU History.
The problem is alot of our opponents are also as good....almost

This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 7:03 pm
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16700 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Is SEC pitching across the board better than ever?

We’re about to find out.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80452 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:19 pm to
I was curious the other day, so i looked into it, homers are down 10% from last year. I think they doctored the balls again. Feels like the last 2 years almost every team had a guy who hit a ball 114 mph, seems the top exit speeds have dropped down to the 108-110 range
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
2950 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:28 pm to
Athletes in general are better than ever across the board
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
6223 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:35 pm to
Out of curiosity and since you looked into it, isn’t there any public information available to tell players , fans, and coaches that the ball has been altered prior to the season.

Would think that would be something ChatGPT could even tell us at this point.

But for me I’m not as necessarily concerned with HRs being down a little as more of the strikeouts I’ve seen not just from LSU but all the SEC teams this year.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80452 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:48 pm to
Ill look into strikeouts, and no, they would not necessarily disclose that they altered the ball. It was likely juiced a bit too much the last two seasons. The exit velocities were kind of out of control
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18109 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Multiple teams some with multiple guys throwing 100+


This is a product of the statcast measurements. They measure approximately 5% faster than the stalker pro guns of about 10 years ago.

94-96 is still absolute gas but today’s 100 mph does not equal yesterday’s 100 mph.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86756 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:37 pm to
You seriously think it’s only an accuracy data point???
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18109 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

You seriously think it’s only an accuracy data point???


Yes, I’ve seen the stalker pro gun I used when scouting against the metrics used on the MLB parks and it’s about 5%.

More guys are definitely throwing harder but the idea that you have multiple 100 mph arms on college staffs just over the last few years is easily explained. My last year in pro ball, I remember seeing 2 or 3 lefties in all of pro baseball that could run it up in the upper 90’s.

Randy Johnson was one. I faced guys in the mid to upper 90s that would dominate big league hitters with fastballs and now all of the sudden college freshman are turning around 98 mph fastballs and can’t keep them fair.

It doesn’t really work that way and comparative data on the way things were measured just 10 years ago and now are pretty clear. High velocity is a marketing tool and fans like to see it. Not saying today’s 100 mph is not actually 100 mph since measurement is more accurate. I’m saying Roger Clemens 94-96 mph in the 1990s would be 98-102 today on stat cast.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
19380 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:20 pm to
College baseball is a lot better now than it ever has been. MLB shortening the draft and NIL have helped college baseball get kids that would have never come to college before
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