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re: Is Miles really that great historically in terms of losses per year?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:58 pm to Baloo
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:58 pm to Baloo
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Why can't we create our own reign of terror? Does Saban have some secret sauce?
quote:They're rare, but obviously achievable. We had the seeds of greatness when Saban bugged out and left us with an elite program - the likes of which LSU had never seen in the modern era - and a ton of momentum. Should we concede that LSU is not dynasty material and NC's are no longer in the cards? The 10-win settlers disappoint me, and dreams of another NC seem to be just that.
To the first question, because truly dominant dynasties are rare.
Yes - I do want it all, but not all of the time, but at least some of the time. It's time.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 4:02 pm
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:02 pm to tigerpawl
Chicken, how do you and the admins not ban tards like this one?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:04 pm to More beer please
Legit question 
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:04 pm to spiderman
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The true measuring stick for Miles is losses per season. A team with fewer than 2 losses has undoubtedly had a great season. Miles has only had 1 season with fewer than 2 losses. Since LSU started playing at least a 9 game schedule they have had 14 seasons w/ fewer than 2 losses:
2011, 2003, 1987, 1969, 1962, 1961, 1958, 1946,1936, 1933, 1921, 1916, 1913 and 1908.
Only 3 of those seasons took place since 1970, so I am going to put it forward that we play in a bit of a different era of LSU football. Also, maybe you want to argue that the fifties and sixties were the golden era of LSU football but given that we have had two national titles and an additional appearance in the last decade or so, I would go with the now. Thus, take your analysis and shove it up your arse with the rest of your hate and try to enjoy the now.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:07 pm to spiderman
How about win percentage?
.798
thats pretty damn good.
Good enough to him at 6th overall including 4 guys who didn't coach a whole season, and one guy who only coached 20 games.
So yeah he is frickin great historically. and will have more wins than any coach at LSU by the time he retires.
.798
thats pretty damn good.
Good enough to him at 6th overall including 4 guys who didn't coach a whole season, and one guy who only coached 20 games.
So yeah he is frickin great historically. and will have more wins than any coach at LSU by the time he retires.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:07 pm to spiderman
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Win percentage is skewed b/c there are at least 3 games on the modern schedule which are automatic wins. It is virtually impossible for LSU to lose these 3 games. Those 3 automatic wins bloat the win percentage.
Here are the last five seasons with fewer than 2 losses you cited as evidence that Miles should be judged on total losses per year:
2011--Cannot be used to argue against Miles, as he was the coach then and gets the credit for whatever happened that season. It makes no sense to use his own good performance as an argument that he is not performing well.
2003--Modern 12-game regular season schedule with three auto-wins (really 4 given how bad Arizona was that year), same as current. Equal record to 2011.
1987--11 game regular season schedule with three cupcake automatic wins (Cal. St.-Fullerton, Rice, Tulane). Actually easier than a modern 12-game schedule with three auto-wins.
1969--Arguably the weakest schedule in LSU football history: Miami(FL) (4-6), Texas A&M, Rice, Mississippi State, Tulane (all 3-7), Kentucky (2-8) and Baylor (0-10) accounted for 7 of 9 wins. Only wins over teams with winning records were 21-20 over Auburn (8-3) and 20-15 over Alabama (6-5). Lost to 8-3 Ole Miss. Did not play in a bowl. Undoubtedly easier than current schedules in both number of losses and winning percentage.
1962--10-game regular season schedule with five supposed auto-wins, but actually only won four of them: Texas A&M (3-7), Miss. St. (3-6), Kentucky (3-5-2) and Tulane (0-10). Also tied Rice (2-6-2). No more difficult than a modern schedule for either winning percentage or number of losses.
No time to go back further to the others you cited, but I think this should be enough to get the point across.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:12 pm to Nuts4LSU
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1969--Arguably the weakest schedule in LSU football history: Miami(FL) (4-6), Texas A&M, Rice, Mississippi State, Tulane (all 3-7), Kentucky (2-8) and Baylor (0-10) accounted for 7 of 9 wins. Only wins over teams with winning records were 21-20 over Auburn (8-3) and 20-15 over Alabama (6-5). Lost to 8-3 Ole Miss. Did not play in a bowl. Undoubtedly easier than current schedules in both number of losses and winning percentage. 1962--10-game regular season schedule with five supposed auto-wins, but actually only won four of them: Texas A&M (3-7), Miss. St. (3-6), Kentucky (3-5-2) and Tulane (0-10). Also tied Rice (2-6-2). No more difficult than a modern schedule for either winning percentage or number of losses.
LOL at you using SEC teams as cupcake "automatic wins" to help your argument that previous schedules were just as easy as modern day schedules.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:18 pm to spiderman
Your "question" ( 
) has been answered.
Quit your incessant trolling.
) has been answered. Quit your incessant trolling.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:21 pm to spiderman
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LOL at you using SEC teams as cupcake "automatic wins" to help your argument that previous schedules were just as easy as modern day schedules.
I really hope you havent reproduced yet
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:43 pm to spiderman
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LOL at you using SEC teams as cupcake "automatic wins" to help your argument that previous schedules were just as easy as modern day schedules.
Name 3 non-SEC cupcakes in each of 2005, 2010, and 2011... GO
ETA: even 2006 is a challenge. Fresno St went 4-8 but were just coming off of a 7 season run of bowl appearances. So your premise fails on 4 of 9 seasons. Nice FAIL
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:18 pm to spiderman
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LOL at you using SEC teams as cupcake "automatic wins" to help your argument that previous schedules were just as easy as modern day schedules.
Why do you continually ignore the Winning percentage argument. There have always been cupcake games to fill the schedule.
I don't mind people being wrong, but at least acknowledge that you made a mistake and move on.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:22 pm to spiderman
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LOL at you using SEC teams as cupcake "automatic wins" to help your argument that previous schedules were just as easy as modern day schedules.
LOL at you ignoring a whole page shitting on your argument. What a clown of a poster. Go frick yourself.
ETA: Last two threads you've made both anchored
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:36 pm to GCTiger11
What a STUPID post by the OP.
Miles has won 80% of his games at LSU over a 9 year period. He has won 3 SEC West Titles; 2 SEC Titles; Played in 2 NC Games; and won a National Title. Yet, some of you still downplay Les Miles.
WTF is wrong with you??
Miles has won 80% of his games at LSU over a 9 year period. He has won 3 SEC West Titles; 2 SEC Titles; Played in 2 NC Games; and won a National Title. Yet, some of you still downplay Les Miles.
WTF is wrong with you??
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:30 pm to More beer please
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Chicken, how do you and the admins not ban tards like this one?
Yeah, I mean, I understand that some people are negative and pessimistic by nature. It's something I don't really identify with when discussing a damn game, but it's OK and it's something I can tolerate and not scream "BAN" at. I understand that's just how some people are.
But this guy does quite literally NOTHING but bash Les, LSU and anyone or anything else involving LSU football. Every one of his posts is a blatant flame attempt. He has less than 200 posts and has already developed a really, really shitty reputation on this board, which is pretty damn impressive considering the average intelligence level of the population.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:05 am to spiderman
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LOL at you using SEC teams as cupcake "automatic wins" to help your argument that previous schedules were just as easy as modern day schedules.
Only two of those seven were SEC teams, and they were 3-7 MSU and 2-8 Kentucky. Five non-conference opponents with losing records combining to go 13-37 is every bit as easy as any modern OOC schedule with 3 cupcakes.
1969 was an easier schedule than any LSU has had in the Miles era. It is especially so considering there was no SEC championship game, we played in no bowl game and we only played 5 conference games, thus allowing us to avoid 9-2 Tennessee and 9-1-1 Florida in a potential SECCG plus another highly ranked team (likely would have been #1 Texas but for ND's change of policy) in a bowl. LSU beat only one team in 1969 that finished in the top 20, and that was #20 Auburn.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 11:09 am
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