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re: Is McMahon the worst HC in LSU sports history?

Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:45 pm to
You forgot Mike Archer.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
32308 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:48 pm to
Don't blame the coach, blame Woodward
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3231 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:50 pm to
Curley Hallman is the worst coach in LSU history by far.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:58 pm to
Nope. We had one in swimming, Woodburn. He was worse. Smoke at least got us to Omaha and a Super Regional against Rice.

I would say Archer or Curly.
Posted by manonwheels28
Member since May 2015
213 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:48 pm to
I meant in terms of my lifetime, Dale was at the end of his career and wasn't
winning big anymore. Make sense?
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14518 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:28 pm to
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Curley was much worse, imo
All Hail King McHallman.......
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2040 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:50 pm to
Smokes record initially was not this bad,

Curley yes...Ed O when he became his full self.
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1255 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 11:44 pm to
Curley Hallman is the worst, no discussion. I'm not sure anyone underperformed expectations more than Nikki Fargas. Top 10 program before and after that barely went .500 in conference for a decade. She didn't even try. Trent Johnson was no better than McMahon-- he was just gifted a championship caliber roster in year 1. They are very similar actually-- nice guys, decent basketball coaches, no ability to get talent. Johnny Jones was the opposite but not much better than those two. He got players but couldn't coach. In my opinion, those are the only 5 that can even really be called bad over their whole tenure in the major sports in the modern area.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4006 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:41 am to
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Brett Favre=Ja Morant


He had his best season, 31-3, without Morant.

Edit- Love this board. Downvoted for sharing something factual because it doesn't fit narrative.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17702 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:44 am to
Curley and it's not even close.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48829 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:20 am to
I will leave it at this. The ppl that would think McMahon is anywhere in the ball park of as bad of a coach as Curly is too young to have seen what really went on during that time. Curly was a dumpster fire on top of a train wreck bad.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
6110 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:32 am to
He is until / if the team starts winning.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94756 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:52 am to
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And i think he’s worse than both.


Worse than Curley Hallman?

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66509 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:56 am to
McMahon has the better overall win % but in SEC play Hallman was better plus he had that major win McMahon never had.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94756 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:03 am to
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in SEC play Hallman was better


Winning 4 games a year in football at LSU is well below atrocious. Winning 2.5 games in conference play in football at LSU is in no way comparable to whatever the frick is happening in bounce ball.

It's not even apples to oranges. It's apples to Plutonium.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66509 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:04 am to
They’re both atrocious, just stating the factual comparison.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 8:07 am
Posted by Romney Wordsworth
The Obsolete Fan
Member since Apr 2018
178 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:07 am to
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Trent Johnson won the 2009 SEC championship.


Marcus Thornton & Tasmin Mitchell won the 2009 championship. TJ just had court side seats.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11909 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:08 am to
Smoke wasn't a terrible coach. Curley was. McMahon isn't good for sure.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34108 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:56 am to
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Winning 4 games a year in football at LSU is well below atrocious. Winning 2.5 games in conference play in football at LSU is in no way comparable to whatever the frick is happening in bounce ball.

It's not even apples to oranges. It's apples to Plutonium.


Since you very clearly don't follow "bounce ball", I'll help you out.

Hallman's SEC record at LSU was 10-21 (.322)
McMahon's SEC record is 12-32 (.272)...and that winning % is likely to DECREASE as the season goes along.

McMahon has only 2 more conference wins in bounce ball than Hallman had in football, despite (currently) 12 more games being played. Unless McMahon goes on a miraculous run the rest of this season or gets another year where he can stack up some wins vs. bad mid-major competition, he's going to finish his LSU career with the lowest overall winning % since 1965 and possibly the lowest SEC winning % in the history of the program.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94756 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:02 am to
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Since you very clearly don't follow "bounce ball", I'll help you out.


I don't need any help. If you cats can't comprehend the outsized impact on the entire athletic department with a Curley Hallman-led football program and a Whateverhisnameis current BB coach having a bad run, I just don't know what else to tell you.

Basketball could go under .200 for several years and the casual fan would barely notice. I'm not saying it isn't important to win in basketball. I'm saying, in order of importance to the athletic department, winning in football is a 10 out of 10, baseball is a 7 out of 10 and MBB is 4 or 5.

#Facts
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