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re: Is LSU hurt if ATM joins the SEC?

Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:43 pm to
I'm against the idea of super 16 team conferences
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:47 pm to
To some small extent I think so - but there is a reasonable LSU fan-base in parts of Texas now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299292 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:48 pm to
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I've never heard of a player picking a school because of the conference. They pick a school because of the school.




It happens. You hear recruits say "I want to play in the SEC" or other conference often.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:57 pm to
Texas A&M joining the SEC would hurt some of our recruiting in east Texas imo. We are the best option for east Texas recuits wanting to play in the premier conference in football.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10957 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:02 pm to
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Texas A&M joining the SEC would hurt some of our recruiting in east Texas imo. We are the best option for east Texas recuits wanting to play in the premier conference in football.



But I'm sure that given the option they will pick a contender over a doormat almost every time. If Texas A&M joins the SEC West they will be Ole Miss 2.0.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:04 pm to
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But I'm sure that given the option they will pick a contender over a doormat almost every time. If Texas A&M joins the SEC West they will be Ole Miss 2.0.


true, but given time and $$$, they will improve over time. This will be the case at the very beginning.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:30 pm to
I think it would hurt LSU a little, but I think it would strengthen the SEC. It would boost the TV market by 10 million.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:34 pm to
aTm joining the SEC would hurt UT far more than LSU
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:38 pm to
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We have seen UGA stand against inviting GA Tech, UF block inviting FSU, and USC protest inviting Clemson


In all three instances you have one school in a state blocking another school from the same state joining the conference.
Posted by pickle311
Liberty Hill TX
Member since Sep 2008
1350 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:01 pm to
It would hurt LSUs recruiting in Texas the same way Ole Miss and MSU do in Mississippi.
Posted by Ala Tide
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:04 pm to
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I don't think most of the players care about what conference they play for.

a lot of kids want to play in the SEC because they know how successful they've been in the national championship.
Posted by Chd1478
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:07 pm to
Minimal to none recruiting wise. LSU could overcome with hard work recruiting

LSU has had modest success in neighboring states like MS, AL, GA, UF.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:09 pm to
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a lot of kids want to play in the SEC because they know how successful they've been in the national championship.



what game would a east texas player rather play in. LSU vs Alabama/Florida type game vs Texas A&M vs Baylor.
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1328 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:12 pm to
We get enough stuff from Texas. I'd rather not have to hear about TAMU in SEC analysis. Plus I don't want to give them a voice at the table. Next step would be SEC Championship in Houston.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11101 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:14 pm to
High school kids pic schools because they want to play in the NFL. Yes conference matters, but the goal of kids is to play in the NFL and conference comes third after NFL and school.

You aren't going to hear kids talk about the NFL on signing day.

One reason why Nick was successful and Michigan State and LSU and now Alabama is his record of NFL players. He went from the NFL to MSU and used his NFL pedigree to recruit some good players. He does that now at Bama.

Even though he quit Miami he can tell kids he knows what it takes to get to the NFL.

So I don't think a&m in the sec hurts LSU in getting talent. A&M isn't known as a nfl factory now. It could change though.
Posted by WreckinRams05
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2005
6394 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:19 pm to
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Texas A&M joining the SEC means that potential LSU recruits from east Texas who want to play in the SEC could play for their home state school instead of LSU


I think your underestimating the influence and support LSU has in houston and the surrounding SE Texas.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37765 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 3:35 pm to
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Next step would be SEC Championship in Houston.


First of all this would never happen (due to the East and Bama schools), but you act like its a bad thing. Since we have been competing again for Championships the game has been in Atlanta which is by and large a big advantage for the SEC east fanbases. Having the game in Houston would be a huge recruiting tool for us. Its a pipe dream for LSU.
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 4:05 pm to
I have to agree on that point but when I grew up in La it would have been a dream to play for the Tigers. My home team. On the other hand I really can see a youth in a bad home situation to want to escape and start a new.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2445 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 4:08 pm to
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Idk if those schools admins have been against their in state rivals joining, but alot of internet talk points that direction. It would make sense that they would be against it though.


Then it's gospel.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4339 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 4:35 pm to
Great question.

I do know one thing, A&M isn't going anywhere near the SEC unless Commisioner Slive gets to renegotiate the overall media deal. Based on the current market, and what the Pac12 just received, bringing the SEC back on the market will be a gusher of money.

LSU may be so busy counting four or five extra million dollars that you don't have time to worry about a recruit in Lufkin or Tyler.
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