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re: Is J. Hill the best since Faulk???

Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:37 am to
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:37 am to
Hilliard sure did disappear
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:39 am to
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Dude STFU the only reason he has a high yards per carry is b/c of 3 40 yd runs in 3 diff games


lol. cause long runs dont count


the only reason ware has a low YPC is because he gets a low number of yards on every carry.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:43 am to
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the only reason ware has a low YPC is because he gets a low number of yards on every carry.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:50 am to
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Double D was the shite


His completeness as a back (Toefield was a runner, primarily, Dom was a receiver out of the backfield, a return man, good blocker, just a total package) is what draws some comparisons to Faulk - he didn't quite have the moves, but probably a little more power.

Dom's natural position was free safety, but he preferred to play offense. He was a throwback, skill-wise, to guys like Cannon and Casanova - he could have played virtually any position on the field, except down lineman.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76193 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:12 am to
Cecil was better than Hill or anyone else on this roster.
Posted by Thedude54
Cameron, OK
Member since Nov 2012
7 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:17 am to
Too early to tell but he does have ability. I think Alley Broussard could have really been special...but the knee.
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:30 am to
WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too early for such a statement.
Posted by LSU91MBA
Houston
Member since Aug 2008
1588 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:38 am to
1 year ago this week -- SEVERAL Rantards were ready to crown Hilliard as the next coming.

Why don't we let him play out his career and THEN assess how it measures up to Tiger greats.

I'm not slamming you... just not ready to compare a freshman that has played in about 6-7 games as "best since" a guy that is on the list of Top 10 in SEC HISTORY, that's all.

Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17872 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:43 am to
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lol. cause long runs dont count
i agree with Maximus. (did I just say that?)

One could argue the opposite with Ware... that he is too impatient and doesn't wait for his blocking to develop. He just slams into the line most of the time. Then again, that's his role -- sledgehammer.

J.Hill's long TD run early in the Ole Miss game was one where he did not sprint through the hole immediately, but let his pulling tackle and lead blockers sort things out, then BAM he accelerated to the end zone. That 50-yarder against USCe was a thing of beauty. He found that little crease and then ripped off a sprint through the secondary.

I thought Ford had easily the best field vision and cut back skills between Ford/Hilliard/Ware last year. But, Hill is better than Ford at this.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 9:45 am
Posted by BigHeadTigerFan
Folsom,La.
Member since Oct 2011
890 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:45 am to
Not yet
Posted by hunt66
Member since Aug 2011
1484 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:55 am to
Certainly not yet but the future is exciting.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:58 am to
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i agree with Maximus. (did I just say that?)



F'in Mayans. It's over now.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:00 am to
kind of depends on what you mean. In terms of pure upside talent, I would say he is the best since Ally Broussard. But this is a cautionary tale, too, because it shows how injuries and a loss of motivation can derail even the most promising careers. I do love how Hill is able to combine speed, strenght, vision, and cuts.
Posted by TigerFan2211
Texas
Member since Jan 2012
880 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:08 am to
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lol. cause long runs dont count


the only reason ware has a low YPC is because he gets a low number of yards on every carry.



No my point is he's not ripping off 6-7 yds every carry like people think. He will get a bunch of small gains then maybe hit a decent gain every now and then instead of accelrationg hard through the hole and making somebody miss. He's sitting at 4.9 YPC right now FYI NOT 6
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
3600 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:10 am to
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He's the best back since Hilliard last November.


And Ware before that. We have a new Faulk every year.
Posted by bojabu
Member since Sep 2010
1275 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:53 am to
How quickly we forget the injured....
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:56 am to
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And Ware before that. We have a new Faulk every year.



And Blue earlier in this season.

Hill is a beast though, and his vision is on another planet from the rest of our healthy backs.

I wonder if the last few weeks he might have been hindered at all from the ankle injury he suffered at the very end of the Bama game?

Before these 2 weeks he was ripping 10-15 yard runs all over aTm, Scar, and Bama.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:13 pm to
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Is J. Hill the best since Faulk???


he is a remarkable blend of power, speed and good hands. he is leaning and hopefully his upside is huge. Ridley was a beast and what can you really say about Faulk that hasn't been said already?

I just hope that Alfred Blue gets back to full strength cause he showed real quality pre-injury. Ford needs to run more N/S and Hilliard seems, for whatever reason, to have taken a step backward. only time will tell.

Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
2504 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:18 pm to
I like Hill because of his vision, but I would like for Hilliard and Ford to get some more carries too. There really isn't enough carries to go around, so as long as we win, I don't care how they divided it. I think Hill has a little bit of an ankle injury that is nagging him lately. Ware is still our most violent runner, just not effective outside the tackles. Not sure what Hilliard has done wrong to be the forgotten man. Blue was on pace to have a really strong season. I hope his knee allows him to return to that form for next season.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76193 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:36 pm to
Faulk, Cecil, and Alley are the most impressive RBs I can think of the past 20 years
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