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re: Is it fair to say this is overall the best coached LSU team since the Saban era?

Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:05 pm to
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We are talking about individual seasons.


Like when you claimed we said "there were no good seasons" under Miles
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:05 pm to
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Yes it does. It implies that there hasn’t been one team that was coached as good as any team since the saban era.



Which is probably accurate. Saban had to build things here. Miles picked up where he left off.

What you should be asking yourself is how do you think Saban would have done with the 2005 team and how do you think Miles would have done with the 2004 roster.

Do you think Miles would fare better in both scenarios? I don't.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
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Saban didn't forget how to coach after the 2003 season.

I get it though. You can't do anything but look at the W/L column, so, that's all you have.

OK. Then, Hugh Freeze was a better coach than Miles in 2014 and 2015.

In 2008, Houston Nutt was a better coach than Miles. So was Marc Richt

Wait. What's that you say? In 2008 there were factors being just coaching that contributed to losses?

Well no fricking shite


This is an epic fricking melt that still misses the point
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
Then why not name a specific season in the Saban era? Miles also coach a National Championship team and was named Coach of the Year. Neither of those coaching jobs was as good as any given season in the Saban era? I never even liked Miles as a coach but the amount of disrespect he gets on this board is crazy to me.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
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I don’t hate it all all, but that season was not without flaws

Do you think that year was coached better than this one so far?


You forgetting the weekly melts over our defensive scheme?
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
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2007 was an extremely well coached team


How? If we were so well coached we wouldn’t have gone to double OT in 2 games against middle of the road SEC teams and lost.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
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Saban didn't forget how to coach after the 2003 season.

I get it though. You can't do anything but look at the W/L column, so, that's all you have.

OK. Then, Hugh Freeze was a better coach than Miles in 2014 and 2015.

In 2008, Houston Nutt was a better coach than Miles. So was Marc Richt

Wait. What's that you say? In 2008 there were factors being just coaching that contributed to losses?

Well no fricking shite


O at ole Miss was a good coach since O is a great coach now. Either you agree with this, or you realize your logic is dumb.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
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I couldn't imagine having this little of a life.


Takes like 2 minutes of the search function to find them.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
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Which is probably accurate


Yikes
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:07 pm to
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No one is. We are talking about individual seasons. Wtf is wrong with you and rob?
You're the one trying to pretend that somehow, coaches vary widely from one year to the next in their coaching ability. An exceedingly unlikely view of reality.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42478 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:07 pm to
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Then why not name a specific season in the Saban era? Miles also coach a National Championship team and was named Coach of the Year. Neither of those coaching jobs was as good as any given season in the Saban era? I never even liked Miles as a coach but the amount of disrespect he gets on this board is crazy to me.


You continue to own the conversation
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:08 pm to
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O at ole Miss was a good coach since O is a great coach now. Either you agree with this, or you realize your logic is dumb.
Yes. Because saying a guy didn't forget how to coach THE NEXT frickING YEAR is totally the same.

Pahleez.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:08 pm to
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coaches vary widely from one year to the next in their coaching ability. An exceedingly unlikely view of reality.


O at Ole Miss was great because O is great now
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42478 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:08 pm to
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You're the one trying to pretend that somehow, coaches vary widely from one year to the next in their coaching ability.


How could we not see orgeron’s coaching prowess at ole miss
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:08 pm to
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You're the one trying to pretend that somehow, coaches vary widely from one year to the next in their coaching ability. An exceedingly unlikely view of reality.

Perhaps more absurd is that you would have to believe that such a coach is actually regressing in their coaching prime
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42478 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:09 pm to
You continue to get absolutely bodied in this discussion and it is amazing
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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89137 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:09 pm to
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Yes. Because saying a guy didn't forget how to coach THE NEXT frickING YEAR is totally the same.


You've claimed more than that though. You also used Bellichick as an example with hIs terrible record on Cleveland. So yes it must be the same
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 10:10 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:09 pm to
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This is an epic fricking melt that still misses the point


Uh huh. Yes. We know. You think a guy that is GREAT one year, kind of somehow forgets how to coach the VERY NEXT year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:09 pm to
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Perhaps more absurd is that you would have to believe that such a coach is actually regressing in their coaching prime


Yep
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
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Yes it does. It implies that there hasn’t been one team that was coached as good as any team since the saban era


the Saban era was 2000-2004.

It’s not one year. It’s a general reference over a period of years.

You fricks are weird
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