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re: Is it fair to say this is overall the best coached LSU team since the Saban era?

Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
In this thread - shorty and powerman think 9-3 capitol one bowl losing season is better than winning the west.

Electric.
Posted by Carl Tuckerson
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
Six more wins and it'll be the best coached LSU team of all time
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
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You've claimed more than that though. You also used Bellichick as an example with hIs terrible record on Cleveland. So yes it must be the same
LOL.

The point was obviously that, QUITE A LOT goes in to determining if a coach is good or not beyond being a fricking 4 year old and saying, "but but but....the won loss column!!!"
Posted by km
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
Including the saban error
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:11 pm to
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In this thread - shorty and powerman think 9-3 capitol one bowl losing season is better than winning the west.
Oh yes. Because W/L is the entire metric for good coaching job!!

Says the kindergartners
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:11 pm to
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The point was obviously that, QUITE A LOT goes in to determining if a coach is good or not beyond being a fricking 4 year old and saying, "but but but....the won loss column!!!"


I’ve said why 2005 was better. You still haven’t said why it wasn’t.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:12 pm to
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LOL


That's how I felt after reading it.

quote:

The point was obviously that, QUITE A LOT goes in to determining if a coach is good or not beyond being a fricking 4 year old and saying, "but but but....the won loss column!!!"





And three point that you can't give up is that 2005 was coached better than 2004 looking at everything.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:12 pm to
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You've claimed more than that though. You also used Bellichick as an example with hIs terrible record on Cleveland. So yes it must be the same



Comparing something many years prior to something the year after one has already achieved greatness is just stupid

Were you better at math in 2nd grade or 8th grade?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:12 pm to
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You still haven’t said why it wasn’t.


He will never actually answer it, because there is no answer.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:12 pm to
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It’s not one year. It’s a general reference over a period of years. You fricks are weird


Yeah. That's probably the funniest part.

The OP question referred to the ERA. So, even if you said he fricking shite the bed in 2004, you still have to ask...……"is this the best coached team since the Saban ERA...……..which...…...yeah...……..includes 2003

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:12 pm to
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In this thread - shorty and powerman think 9-3 capitol one bowl losing season is better than winning the west.


No, he thinks Saban did a better job with what he had and the strength of opponents than Miles.

You can't quantify it.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:13 pm to
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And three point that you can't give up is that 2005 was coached better than 2004 looking at everything.


2005 team had a superior roster lead by an elite QB that wasn't ready in 2004

How do you not understand this?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:13 pm to
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Comparing something many years prior to something the year after one has already achieved greatness is just stupid

Were you better at math in 2nd grade or 8th grade?


So O was great at ole Miss then. Thanks for clearing that up.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:14 pm to
That season was shite. Saban had a foot out the door. The team played uninspiring football. How you can think that is better than 2005 ignores reality.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:14 pm to
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I’ve said why 2005 was better. You still haven’t said why it wasn’t.

Simple.

Because I know Saban didn't suddenly forget how to coach after 2003 and, I already know...…...and YOU have admitted...…….Saban IS a better coach than Miles.

Saban likely coached the 2004 team in a near identical manner to how he coached the 2003 team.

If you think otherwise, you're a fricking idiot.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:14 pm to
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No, he thinks Saban did a better job with what he had and the strength of opponents than Miles.

You can't quantify it.


Because it's a load of crap
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:15 pm to
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Oh yes. Because W/L is the entire metric for good coaching job!!

Says the kindergartners


If we go that route, oregeron 2019 might end up better than Saban 2003

They wouldn't really believe it then..
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:15 pm to
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Saban likely coached the 2004 team in a near identical manner to how he coached the 2003 team.





Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:15 pm to
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No, he thinks Saban did a better job with what he had and the strength of opponents than Miles.
Meanwhile, Beefense thinks that Saban coached the 2003 team using one approach...…..then, in 2004 said, "frick it, I'm changing how I do things">

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:16 pm to
The fact you laughed shows you really have no logical argument for why Saban would have somehow coached differently in 2004 than he did in 2003

Because. Well, that would be fricking weird.
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