re: In retrospect this team probably overachieved

You brought the talent stuff to the thread. The same extremists you are mocking puts you in the same category, just on the other side. Do better

I think everyone assumed the wheels were going to come off the LSU program this year and that didn't happen at all. In fact, we beat the shite out of some teams that everyone had us circled to get dominated by including Miami, Georgia, and Miss State. No one had us winning @Auburn either and this team got it done. So in those ways, we over-achieved what were very low expectations of LSU in the preseason.

For LSU fans, you want to see the building of a program, stockpiling of talent in the offseason, and the utilization of that talent during the year. I think Orgeron has only been moderately successful in that so far. We've had misses in recruiting in each of his classes. We've managed to flip John Emery which is huge, land Stingley and K.Thomas early which are all elite prospects as well. It looks like Sopsher is not coming so let's see who he can close with so that this recruiting class fills a lot of holes in places of need.

Then you have to develop the guys he's brought into the program that weren't top national recruits too. All those DL guys he brought in during the last two classes and the guys he's flipping from DL to OL are going to have to develop. Aranda was able to overcome losing Chaisson despite not really having any other elite pure pass rushers on the roster so offensively we have to be able to implement a scheme that protects us when our OTs aren't all conference talent.

Those predictions were before Burrow signed.

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Next year is huge for O.

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Hiring E was a strategic move by O last year to buy himself more time. When E moves on and O has to hire a new OC, the third in three years, the excuse for underperformance next year will be that "We have a new system and it takes time to get everyone up to speed. Next season we will be ready and a powerhouse!"

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You need to have a friend sit down with you and read what you are saying. Stop being a maniac Dave.

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And yet the talking point was that O was going to live and die by the E choice after the Canada debacle. And yet, Dave's statement is looking more and more likely to come to fruition.

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Hiring E was a strategic move by O last year to buy himself more time.

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This is lunacy. I wasn't a fan of the Ensminger hire, but to think he would purposely make a shitty hire to buy himself an extra year or two, rather than make a great hire and last 10 more years is fricking retard level stupid.

How do you people make it through the day without getting run over in traffic?

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9-3 is not overachieving at LSU. Not this year not ever.

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The 1990s called and would like a word with you.

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And yet the talking point was that O was going to live and die by the E choice after the Canada debacle. And yet, Dave's statement is looking more and more likely to come to fruition.

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First of all, Dave’s post alleges that O hired E as a move to buy him time. Let’s all laugh at how fricking dumb that is.

Secondly, If the offense stalls progress next year then there surely won’t be any excuses. Especially after all the praise O gives E. That’s his guy for now.

LSU Football Isn’t player out over a message board. Moves aren’t made to “buy time” or for future excuses. Like Oregeron doesn’t want to win as many games as possible. You two are legitimately insane if that’s what you think.

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First of all, Dave’s post alleges that O hired E as a move to buy him time. Let’s all laugh at how fricking dumb that is.

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How dumb is it? Do you honestly find O thinking that E was the best OC candidate out there to be more realistic? If so, that's foolish.

He didn't purposely make a shitty hire, he made a comfortable easy hire from within. He hired someone who he knew would do as told and play safe and conservative and knew that if things went wrong, he would have someone else to offer up rather than himself.