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Imagine a Baseball Game and Removing Coaches/Players/Fans Complaining About Balls/Strikes
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:51 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:51 am
Essentially a whole narrative or excuse for a loss right out the window. The technology is ready and proven. Today’s pitchers throw so hard and their ball moves so much that relying on a human eye to determine if it crossed in an extremely small area (pitchers want to avoid the middle of the plate like the plague) is damn near impossible to have an elite correct call %.
For those that say umpire preferences or opinion are simply “part of the game”, you are basically saying that you want to be able to say “the ump screwed us” as an excuse for your team losing Or saying you think baseball should involve analyzing what an umpire will do which is different than what the rules specify.
For those that say umpire preferences or opinion are simply “part of the game”, you are basically saying that you want to be able to say “the ump screwed us” as an excuse for your team losing Or saying you think baseball should involve analyzing what an umpire will do which is different than what the rules specify.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 6:02 am
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 6:11 am to STEVED00
Personally, I can’t imagine baseball without umps.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 6:23 am to STEVED00
I'm not that worried either way about it, but yeah in my opinion, dealing with a human umpire is a part of the game.
Different guys have different zones, some pitchers have a reputation and get the benefit of the doubt on close pitches, sometimes you get a strike on the edge and the pitcher puts it a little further on the next pitch. Sometimes you cross the catcher up badly and it gets called a ball by default, when it may actually be a strike (we saw that a game ago). Some catchers can frame the ball and steal a strike. Sometimes a guy has poor control, and the umpire responds by shrinking his zone a bit. Sometimes that zone expands a little, in big moments, and forces a batter to take the bat off his shoulder. Managers and coaches lobby for certain pitches one way or the other, or balks to be called, so on. Some folks piss the ump off and can't get a call afterwards.
Some folks don't like that, others think it's part of the appeal of the sport. It's part of the human element that separates it from the other major spectator sports... you have to deal with the umpire, as well as the other team. As long as that umpire isn't biased towards one team over the other, it is something that makes each game a bit different from any other.
And yeah, bitching at and about the ump is part of the game. And in general, it's way more satisfying to say 'the ump screwed us' instead of acknowledging your team just sucked.
Different guys have different zones, some pitchers have a reputation and get the benefit of the doubt on close pitches, sometimes you get a strike on the edge and the pitcher puts it a little further on the next pitch. Sometimes you cross the catcher up badly and it gets called a ball by default, when it may actually be a strike (we saw that a game ago). Some catchers can frame the ball and steal a strike. Sometimes a guy has poor control, and the umpire responds by shrinking his zone a bit. Sometimes that zone expands a little, in big moments, and forces a batter to take the bat off his shoulder. Managers and coaches lobby for certain pitches one way or the other, or balks to be called, so on. Some folks piss the ump off and can't get a call afterwards.
Some folks don't like that, others think it's part of the appeal of the sport. It's part of the human element that separates it from the other major spectator sports... you have to deal with the umpire, as well as the other team. As long as that umpire isn't biased towards one team over the other, it is something that makes each game a bit different from any other.
And yeah, bitching at and about the ump is part of the game. And in general, it's way more satisfying to say 'the ump screwed us' instead of acknowledging your team just sucked.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 6:59 am to STEVED00
Bring on the robots.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:02 am to STEVED00
This Is kinda an up vote and down vote for me.
I do believe EVERY umpire should be subject to the strike zone area on the screen and be judged!
I like the human aspect but ACCOUNTABILITY is the key!
No fricking way should that fricking idiot from Tue ever be behind a plate again!
I do believe EVERY umpire should be subject to the strike zone area on the screen and be judged!
I like the human aspect but ACCOUNTABILITY is the key!
No fricking way should that fricking idiot from Tue ever be behind a plate again!
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:07 am to Scoob
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Different guys have different zones,
Shouldn’t happen
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pitchers have a reputation
Shouldn’t matter
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Catcher’s frame
Shouldn’t matter
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Sometimes that zone expands a little, in big moments, and forces a batter to take the bat off his shoulder.
Shouldn’t happen.
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you have to deal with the umpire
Shouldn’t have to
The umpire at this point is adding potential drama to the sport. If the sports wants that primarily for the entertainment value that it provides then so be it.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 7:12 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:10 am to STEVED00
People would just complain about the robots.
People on here complain about provable non subjective things all the time. You think having a technological device calling balls and strikes is going to stop that?
People on here complain about provable non subjective things all the time. You think having a technological device calling balls and strikes is going to stop that?
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 7:11 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:16 am to geauxtigers33
quote:They don't complain about the robots in soccer thatvwas recently introduced. It is just part of the game now.
People would just complain about the robots.
Now if the robots could help eliminate the diving :)
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:21 am to STEVED00
I’m all for it. Still stick a guy back there to call runners scoring at home. Other than that, sit back and shut up.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:34 am to bisceaux
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They don't complain about the robots in soccer thatvwas recently introduced.
You underestimate the ability of the rant to complain about everything.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:35 am to bisceaux
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They don't complain about the robots in soccer thatvwas recently introduced. It is just part of the game now
It would be the same guy that claims the computer is cheating while playing Madden
Tennis is the big success story imo. Before the technology was implemented there would routinely be blow ups between players and the chair umpire (hell that was part of McEnroe’s strategy was to act the fool to get the other player off his game) and now that is all a thing of the past.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 7:38 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:39 am to STEVED00
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The technology is ready and proven
Is it? Serious question. I thought there were still issues with it.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:39 am to STEVED00
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Tennis is the big success story imo. Before the technology was implemented there would routinely be blow ups between players and the chair umpire
The tennis replay system I believe would work in baseball.
You don’t review every pitch but you can give the coach the option to review 3 or so pitches a game to see if they are strikes.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 7:44 am to geauxtigers33
Making a few pitches reviewable would go a long way. The coach could make the ump look like a dumbass if he goes too far, and that would provide a check on the worst behavior without removing the human element at all.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:12 am to Pankins
They already have this available in the minors and it appears to be very quick and efficient from the videos I have seen.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:16 am to STEVED00
It'll happen eventually and I seriously doubt the NCAA is going to ask my opinion either way. But at the thought that baseball fans will complain less just because there's a robot calling balls and strikes. They'll just find something else to complain about.
at the thought that baseball fans will complain less just because there's a robot calling balls and strikes. They'll just find something else to complain about. Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:32 am to Cold Cous Cous
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They'll just find something else to complain about.
I just view it as one less thing to complain about. No longer being able to say the ump is “screwing” your team is HUGE. You might disagree with the AI ump but it won’t be biased (unless it was programmed to be).
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:34 am to Recoveringcajun
quote:Umpires will still be there. They would have an earpiece so they could relay the call from trackman. They’d also still be there for a variety of other calls and to keep the game moving and in order. This won’t remove their presence… yet.
Personally, I can’t imagine baseball without umps.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:01 am to STEVED00
Baseball is the most Dune sport; a highly regimented system that would logically be governed by machines if they weren't seen as an affront to sacred beliefs.
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