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Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:00 am to Zzyzx
We got a ton of pressure. Several sacks and a lot of forced throws. We forced two fumbles on quick pressures and were very unlucky not recover either and had 2/3 batted balls on blitzes that we were very unlucky to not pick off.
We tackled much better and had guys generally in possession every play. On two of USCs touchdown drives they made incredible one handed catches. Moss had some absurd throws with guys right in his face.
Our safeties still suck and so do our non Stamps corners. Anytime Moss did have time to throw it was almost a guaranteed completion, but I’m not sure there’s much we can do about that the year. We just don’t have the talent to get coverage sacks or stops against good offenses
We tackled much better and had guys generally in possession every play. On two of USCs touchdown drives they made incredible one handed catches. Moss had some absurd throws with guys right in his face.
Our safeties still suck and so do our non Stamps corners. Anytime Moss did have time to throw it was almost a guaranteed completion, but I’m not sure there’s much we can do about that the year. We just don’t have the talent to get coverage sacks or stops against good offenses
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:03 am to Tzanghi
I think we’re just grasping at straws, or desperate because last year was so incredibly bad.
I only saw maybe a negligible improvement from last year.
Everyone in my section last night couldn’t stand the defense. Idk if it looked different on TV, but in real life they looked shite.
Let’s be honest the only reason USC didn’t score 34 was because the ran out of time in the first half to go for the endzone, tried a chipshot FG and missed
I only saw maybe a negligible improvement from last year.
Everyone in my section last night couldn’t stand the defense. Idk if it looked different on TV, but in real life they looked shite.
Let’s be honest the only reason USC didn’t score 34 was because the ran out of time in the first half to go for the endzone, tried a chipshot FG and missed
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:03 am to atltiger6487
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our D gave up 7.7 yards per play. And that's not skewed by a small number of huge plays. USC moved the ball consistently all night.
I know there are a bunch of new rules in college football. Did they start awarding additional points for moving the ball between the 20s?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:07 am to Zzyzx
I'm not sure what you were expecting. I had very low expectations for this defense because, while it's great to dream on a new coach just fixing everything on his own, you still need players. And we knew there was a problem with quality players on that side of the ball, that Baker hasn't yet had the time to overhaul.
But while there were some busted coverages at times, we had them held to 13 points with about 8 minutes to go. I never dreamed we could have had a lead in the 4th quarter if our offense had scored under 20 points by then. But, there we were. And yes, even factoring in the missed field goal, USC would still only have had 16 points, and we'd still have had the lead. And let's not forget that the defense was screwed over when we took a bad penalty and had to kick to their dangerous returner, who burned us and put the defense in an immediate jam.
The defense definitely imploded in those last 8 minutes, but if the offense could have simply picked up a foot on third down, and maybe put a drive together, we wouldn't be talking about this. That's why Baker is getting a pass.
But while there were some busted coverages at times, we had them held to 13 points with about 8 minutes to go. I never dreamed we could have had a lead in the 4th quarter if our offense had scored under 20 points by then. But, there we were. And yes, even factoring in the missed field goal, USC would still only have had 16 points, and we'd still have had the lead. And let's not forget that the defense was screwed over when we took a bad penalty and had to kick to their dangerous returner, who burned us and put the defense in an immediate jam.
The defense definitely imploded in those last 8 minutes, but if the offense could have simply picked up a foot on third down, and maybe put a drive together, we wouldn't be talking about this. That's why Baker is getting a pass.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:08 am to R11
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I agree we were better than last year.
So that’s the standard now? Just be better than the worst defense is school history?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:09 am to Zzyzx
I disagree, the defense is in great hands. The penalties, inability to run the ball, and not throwing the ball downfield cost LSU the game.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:10 am to Zzyzx
Riley has averaged 30 ppg except one year in his career.
You’re telling me that giving up an offensive coach’s average on year removed from having the worst defense in the history of the program is not where we should be?
If you told me we held USC to 20 points and we had the ball after the two minute warning, I would have taken that every damn day of the week.
You’re telling me that giving up an offensive coach’s average on year removed from having the worst defense in the history of the program is not where we should be?
If you told me we held USC to 20 points and we had the ball after the two minute warning, I would have taken that every damn day of the week.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:10 am to Zzyzx
If you didn’t see significant improvement on defense compared to last year, you weren’t watching.
Was it perfect? No but the defense played more than good enough to leave with a win.
Was it perfect? No but the defense played more than good enough to leave with a win.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:11 am to Python
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So that’s the standard now? Just be better than the worst defense is school history?
That’s the expectation. You don’t go from worst ever to top 25 defense the first game of the next season.
Do you not expect the defense to continue to improve?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:13 am to Zzyzx
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No pressure. No turnovers.
We had a ton of pressure almost all night, what game did you watch?
Multiple chances at turnovers on some batted balls that just didn’t fall our way
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:14 am to ipodking
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There was no doubt in my mind USC would drive down the field and score
That’s so damn sad
New staff, same results
Baker is night and day different, what are you talking about.
You guys are forgetting just how bad our defense was last year. We couldn’t stop anything.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:15 am to Zzyzx
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The defense was garbage. I know it’s partly a talent issue currently, but whatever scheme he used last night was horrible. USC moved the ball at will
The front 7 was greatly improved, especially in terms of pass rush. We got to the fricking QB twice with 3 man rushes. If you can’t see this then you just don’t understand the game of football.
The secondary still needs a lot of work, but Stamps was good and Woodland was solid for a true freshman playing in a big atmosphere. Hopefully Zy Alexander gets back soon and they can build on the young guys like they did with Campbell and Jones on the OL 2 years ago.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:16 am to nugget
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get you guys want to man up and blitz every play but you can’t do that, especially with our personnel.
I agree but that final drive defensively was piss poor
I hate the bend don’t break/keep the ball in front of you mentality. At some point you have to press and get physical and go win the game. Jmo
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:16 am to Zzyzx
First game trying to overhaul a historically bad defense, I think it’s ok to give him a pass
Were there possessions they did not wish to move the ball on?
Sorry but my anger is squarely at BK and the entire offensive staff. Anyone that had a hand in that gameplan and playcalling should be embarrassed.
I have no doubt this team will get better but we clearly need to stop scheduling these neutral site games because there’s a disconnect between the camp we’re running and being ready to play a real opponent out of the gate. It’s been the same issues in each game, you’re doing something wrong
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every time USC wanted to move the ball, they did so easily
Were there possessions they did not wish to move the ball on?
Sorry but my anger is squarely at BK and the entire offensive staff. Anyone that had a hand in that gameplan and playcalling should be embarrassed.
I have no doubt this team will get better but we clearly need to stop scheduling these neutral site games because there’s a disconnect between the camp we’re running and being ready to play a real opponent out of the gate. It’s been the same issues in each game, you’re doing something wrong
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:16 am to Zzyzx
You’re a moron. That offense last night would’ve put 50+ on our defense last year. Multiple times we needed a stop and the defense delivered. It’s the sorry arse offensive play calls that lost the game.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:16 am to Zzyzx
Bro they had 13 points going into the 4th. Gave the offense the ball twice up 17-13 saying here, go finish the game.
We did frick all.
Can't ask much more of the defense in game 1 with a new staff.
We did frick all.
Can't ask much more of the defense in game 1 with a new staff.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:17 am to Zzyzx
LSU loss the game with 7:40 to play in the 4th quarter. Of all plays we could have chosen, we run it up the gut, USC's strength.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:18 am to Zzyzx
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Plus for a guy who hangs his hat on pressure, we maybe had a handful of plays with pressure.
Go rewatch the game. The pocket was collapsing every play and their OL was false starting every fricking play because of it. The officials missed several. That’s because they were trying to get a head start on the DL coming down their throat.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:19 am to Zzyzx
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Let’s be honest the only reason USC didn’t score 34 was because the ran out of time in the first half to go for the endzone, tried a chipshot FG and missed
“USC didn’t score more because the game was not longer” might be the most retarded take I’ve read on tRant.
Idk if you’re hungover, but the defense was night and day from last year. Either you’re not letting yourself remember how bad they were, or you just don’t know ball. Holding Lincoln Riley and Miller Moss to 13 through 3.5 quarters is an incredible feat for a defense that was historically bad last year.
They made IMPACT stops when we needed them late in the game, and the offense repaid them by putting them back on the field in less than two minutes with no room for error.
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