re: I'm not as pessimistic as others, there are reasons why you wouldn't pitch Skenes today..

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I'm not as pessimistic as others, there are reasons why you wouldn't pitch Skenes today..

I get that. We all do, it's not some magical TD poster thought.

But I hope posters could see both sides...

Nicholls was close to beating Bama just now.

I know I said before, but we weren't as matter of fact winning this game today. Even with Skenes on the mound, we had multiple double plays that helped the game closer.

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Dude, you have to win with someone other than Skenes on the mound. What game are you going to have easier than Tulane to do that with.

There zero benefit to beating Tulane if it makes it harder to be Oregon State.

When you say, "we might not have beaten Tulane without Skenes" then what the frick do you think is going to happen today?

There is no other side. It was a dumb decision. At best, we are 50/50 today.

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Either way it’s over so can we move on?

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Jay Johnson needs to be buried with this decision if LSU loses today.

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Was I the only one that noticed we only won by 5 today? The way everyone is assuming such a huge dropoff going to Floyd, how in the world are y'all so 100% can't possibly be wrong that we were absolutely guaranteed a win with Floyd on the mound?

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What a stupid argument.

If Floyd isn't going to beat Tulane, do you think he's going to beat Oregon State? Which team do you think he has the best chance of beating.

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Just flat out asking: do any of y'all even perceive the possibility that your analysis could be wrong

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Are you saying that we have a better chance of beating both Tulane AND THEN Oregon State by pitching, in order Skenes/Floyd vs. Floyd/Skenes?

Are you retarded?

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Dude, you are basically saying we were guaranteed a win today no matter who we threw, but are doomed tomorrow because it isn’t Skenes. The pitching staff you’re considering an automatic win with on Friday is the same one you’re claiming dooms us Saturday. If we would have threw Floyd tonight and lost, would you have saved PS bc we MIGHT play OSU in the winners bracket after eliminating someone?

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My god. Our fans are dumb.

If you lost against Tulane with Floyd then, in hindsight, you can say that there's no decision that would have gotten us out of a regional. If he didn't beat Tulane, he wasn't going to beat Oregon State.

A logical argument to start Skenes against Tulane is that you think Tulane on Friday is a tougher game than Oregon State on Saturday when you consider the pitching remaining. I think that's an absurd opinion as evidenced by the way that they swing the bats and by how poor of a Tulane has shown to be over the year.

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You’re the same poster who was shitting all over a positive thread just last week. Shitting all over the bullpen and the team. You bring nothing of context to the discussion of the decision to start Skenes. You’re a shite poster who has nothing of quality to add.

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Just using a discussion board for discussion.

To me it breaks down like this:
Regional games 1 and 2, Skenes / Floyd (in some order) will be your starters against 4 seed Tulane (19-40) and 2 seed OSU (39-18). Who should face whom? On paper there should be no discussion how the strategic matchups should work here.

Those defending Skenes v Tulane seem to be arguing…
1) Pitching matchups: Our ace vs. Tulane ace; and our #2 vs OSU #4/5
2) “Hot” opponent. Whatever this actually means, to them Tulane was hot and OSU I guess wasn’t
3) Results. Skenes won game 1 vs. Tulane. So, see it worked. Oh, and tulane hit Skenes hard so floyd was obviously gonna have trouble with them

Now, though, here’s what’s being minimized by the Skenes v tulane defenders:
1) OSU is obviously the better team (compared to tulane) by virtue of their overall record and stats.
2) 20+ hits and 18 runs (I know I know, against SHU) screams serious opposition for game 2, which was already suggested by point #1, they’re overall record and stats.

I get it, Floyd vs team’s #4 pitcher is advantage from pitching duel standpoint.

However, I’d prefer to look at it from a pitcher v. batter standpoint. Floyd v. Tulane bats and Skenes v OSU bats seems like the better odds for this regional’s setup

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That's a straw man. You did not accurately describe his point. His larger point was correct in terms of optimal thinking/strategy. Now, I can't assess if he's correct as it applies to this situation (the strategy he's criticizing may have been the optimal strategy and you won), and I'm not weighing in on that. I'm just saying you used a logical fallacy in response.

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Ehhhhhh lol

Everyone that disagrees is just mad because they think their way is the best way

I think Skenes should be out there today, but there are some thing to at least halfway justify yesterday.

1. Keep Skenes on schedule.
2. OSU has 1 starting pitcher and he went yesterday. they also only have 3 LHP and 1 onoy pitches midweek games. we will have the pitching advantage today.
3. tulane’s bats have been hot heading into yesterday. didn’t win the AAC tournament on their pitching.

I still think we could have won yesterday with Hurd and has Skenes today and Floyd tomorrow, but I also think we can win today and tomorrow with Floyd and Hurd.

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There could be two different paths to the same outcome (in this case, win game 1), yet one path could be objectively “better,” right?

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If you’re objectively looking at game 1 and winning that game, then objectively, the best decision was to pitch your best guy.

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If you’re objectively looking at game 1 and winning that game, then objectively, the best decision was to pitch your best guy.

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Objectively looking at game 1, skenes was your best option. Objectively looking at game 2, skenes is your best option, now unavailable. Shucks