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re: I'm good now. We know what we have with Will Wade
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:42 pm to Rouge
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:42 pm to Rouge
Biggest problem I see with Wade and this year’s team is the repetitive mistakes with dumb fouls and turnovers that he has been unable to fix.
Mwani Wilkinson and Efton Reid are the two biggest perpetrators of stupid fouls. Mwani reaches, takes bad angles and fouls 3-point shooters at will. Efton looks like he can’t control his body on the court and anytime he’s around a guy he falls on or pushes him for an easy foul call.
Gaines is the biggest turnover culprit. He will inexplicably make a lazy pass, dribble off his foot out of bounds or just get the ball stolen at least twice a game and those turnovers turn directly into fast break points on the other end.
There’s been no improvement from any of these guys in these areas from the beginning of the year. Whatever Wade’s doing behind the scenes, if anything, isn’t working. And apparently, they still get the same number of minutes each night, so discipline through benching is not being implemented.
I like Wade and I think he knows the issues. I think he’ll tweak the roster until he gets the right balance of scoring and defense combined with high IQ play on both ends. But he has yet to fix some of these problems this year and they will almost undoubtedly be the cause of our exit from the tourney.
Mwani Wilkinson and Efton Reid are the two biggest perpetrators of stupid fouls. Mwani reaches, takes bad angles and fouls 3-point shooters at will. Efton looks like he can’t control his body on the court and anytime he’s around a guy he falls on or pushes him for an easy foul call.
Gaines is the biggest turnover culprit. He will inexplicably make a lazy pass, dribble off his foot out of bounds or just get the ball stolen at least twice a game and those turnovers turn directly into fast break points on the other end.
There’s been no improvement from any of these guys in these areas from the beginning of the year. Whatever Wade’s doing behind the scenes, if anything, isn’t working. And apparently, they still get the same number of minutes each night, so discipline through benching is not being implemented.
I like Wade and I think he knows the issues. I think he’ll tweak the roster until he gets the right balance of scoring and defense combined with high IQ play on both ends. But he has yet to fix some of these problems this year and they will almost undoubtedly be the cause of our exit from the tourney.
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:52 pm to Rjlebla
It really is absurd to NOT credit WW for the 2018-19 NCAA Ty run.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:58 pm to Rouge
Need good off. Asst. Coach
Posted on 3/3/22 at 1:02 pm to jimbeam
quote:you STILL didn't give me an answer to my question:
Here’s your answer. Average age of first time D1 head coach is 43 years old with 10 years of full time experience.
Average age of coaches making it to tournament 50
Average age of coaches winning in first round 52
Average age of coaches in S16 53
Average age of coaches in F4 55
Tell me WW isn’t a young coach.
-- How many years does Wade have to be a D-1 head coach before he's no longer a "young coach?"
It's a simple question. Just give me a number please.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 1:32 pm to Rouge
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Did he? I watched those games, and he was nowhere to be seen. Can't take credit when Wade didn't coach those games.
Okay, okay, so you’re assigning credit in the narrowest of terms, and that’s your prerogative to do so.
So you won’t give credit unless the coach was actually physically present for the round of 64 and round of 32 games.
Not the guy who coached the whole season, won the SEC conference and GOT the team to the tournament and tournament ready in the first place, but wasn’t allowed to coach in the tournament?
If Coach K had coached Duke to winning the ACC conference, but was not able to actually be present at the NCAA tournament, I wonder if he wouldn’t have been credited with reaching the Sweet Sixteen either, had he done so?
You’ve simplified the assignation of credit to 2 games that WW didn’t even get a chance to coach, after a highly successful season (and as far as I know his ban was restricted to actual in-game communication. He was able to communicate with his players and coaches at other times).
Fact remains that we don’t know if WW would’ve coached them to beyond the Sweet 16. He was never given that opportunity. Elite 8 was a distinct possibility with that team.
Personally, I’m sure that Will would’ve done a lot better coaching job than Tony Benford did in the Sweet 16. I was at that game and Tony looked lost. He had never had that type of responsibility in WW’s crew. He was appointed interim head coach by Alleva. Not chosen by WW. I still don’t know why Greg Haier wasn’t made HC. Far more qualified for in-game coaching.
So I’m change the semantics to “Credit for reaching the Sweet 16 goes to the coaching ensemble headed by Will Wade”.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 2:14 pm to atltiger6487
quote:
It's a simple question. Just give me a number please.
I'd say halfway thru his second contract
Posted on 3/3/22 at 2:34 pm to Rouge
All that matters is Gen Wade is a gangsta.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 3:01 pm to Rouge
He’s also deficient at instilling a discipline into the players so they play within the scheme and avoid dumb decisions.
Bottom line with all of this.
Wade is a good coach. He deserves to make money and that’s what this is all about- how much?
I think he’s worth the average of the top 10 sec coaches but I want top tier coaching. I’d be fine to pay top 3 sec salary if it warranted it.
Bottom line with all of this.
Wade is a good coach. He deserves to make money and that’s what this is all about- how much?
I think he’s worth the average of the top 10 sec coaches but I want top tier coaching. I’d be fine to pay top 3 sec salary if it warranted it.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:52 pm to Rouge
Yeah unless he is fortunate enough to get a couple of pure shooters like Cam Thomas on one team then 2nd round or Sweet 16 (which is damn good by the way) is probably his ceiling UNLESS he changes his offensive philosophy.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:56 pm to Rouge
I really feel like over time Wade is going to perfect his craft. LSU and Wade are growing together. We know Wade knows how to put a good offense on the court. We’ve seen it in previous seasons. Once he can figure out how to do both (offense and Defense) at the same time consistently? SKY IS THE LIMIT!!
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:27 pm to atltiger6487
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Wade's in his 17th year of coaching, and his 9th year as a D-1 head coach.
When does the "young coach" excuse get retired? After 10 years? 15? 20? 25?
It was Pinson's injury earlier this season, and then he came back and can't throw the ball into the ocean.
Gotta keep those goal posts greased.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:53 pm to Jb1994
I have a simple question. I'm not here to bash anyone, but i look at one rant and it said he's young and he will develop. After 5 years in most case there isn't time left for improving and learning. If you don't know it after 5 years, there is not much hope. Just thoughts!!
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:55 pm to socks and sandals
quote:
We did. He's now the leading scorer for the American conference and has almost single-handedly beat 3 quad 1 teams with his perimeter shooting and defense.... But Wade thought he was too short so he let him go to Tulane
Wade did not make him leave. He left. Wade started other guards his height the last 3 years. Secondly, he had an all American scorer in Adam Miller sitting on the bench who was better than the guy starting in NJ right now.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:56 pm to chadr07
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He’s been coaching for 17 years now.
I’m in the 17th year in my job as well and I learn something new every day. I’m pretty sure Wade does too. If you don’t, then you are the one stuck in the mud
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:58 pm to geauxcoco
Scott Drew at Baylor had 56 total wins in his first 5 seasons. Can you imagine if they’d had given up on him that soon? Look at where they are now but it took 8-9 seasons to even get them to a level where they were a factor in the Big-12. It took another 8 years before they were a national power. When you don’t inherit a national power or fringe power you have to build it and that takes time. We’re way ahead of that pace from a similar starting point. People who think you can just go from 10-21 to final 4s every year overnight don’t know what they’re talking about.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:10 pm to Britgirl
quote:
Did he? I watched those games, and he was nowhere to be seen. Can't take credit when Wade didn't coach those games.
quote:
Not the guy who coached the whole season, won the SEC conference and GOT the team to the tournament and tournament ready in the first place, but wasn’t allowed to coach in the tournament?
quote:I immediately discredit anyone that uses Wade not coaching a Sweet 16 team as their argument. It's completely without context and shows their true colors. Not worth our time.
You’ve simplified the assignation of credit to 2 games that WW didn’t even get a chance to coach, after a highly successful season
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:16 pm to Madking
quote:
Scott Drew at Baylor had 56 total wins
Dale Brown won 63 and had a losing record after 5 seasons.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:19 pm to Rouge
37 downvotes for one the best takes on LSU basketball I’ve seen.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:29 pm to Rouge
I agree
But we also could really use a pure shooter to occasionally run an offense through when we need a big shot
But we also could really use a pure shooter to occasionally run an offense through when we need a big shot
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:36 pm to Tiger1988
And there’s this “elite talent” myth that’s going around. Recruiting has been much improved and it’s been a nice surprise but it’s not at the level of teams some posters are demanding we be on par with already record wise. Wade has recruited 5 NBA players since arriving at LSU, Kentucky has had 17 in that time. We’ve had 1 late first round pick under Wade, Kentucky has had 4 lottery picks and twice has had multiple lottery pics in the same draft. People saying that not making deep runs every season already is a failure are totally ignorant when it comes to the landscape of college basketball.
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