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re: I’m excited to see Colin Hurley fully develop and compete with Van Buren.

Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:53 pm to
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Not being a debbie downer, but if he is behind the transfer qb from State, he will probably bolt after next season. Just the way it is now.


Hurley will bolt after Spring ball if Kelly doesn't assure him he's the backup.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22676 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:24 pm to
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You gain nothing by going early and you make your entire window more difficult.


I mean, you get a college scholarship and are being trained by one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the country at some of the best facilities. You also lock your spot in.

From a financial standpoint, you take that benefit as early as possible. It’s a fair point to say one probably develops more with live reps, but saying there is nothing to gain from going early is just not true. For the rare player that is essentially a guarantee to play 3 years before pro, it actually makes more sense to start college eligibility early
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 3:02 pm to
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I’m excited to see Colin Hurley fully develop and compete with Van Buren.


You going to practice?
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1491 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 3:17 pm to
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Hurley will bolt after Spring ball if Kelly doesn't assure him he's the backup.


I don't think that Hurley is someone who thinks that way, hopefully he patiently waits his turn like Nuss did.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19806 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 3:30 pm to
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Van Buren


Is he Dutch?
Posted by FrenchJoe
H 861
Member since Aug 2006
1038 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:14 pm to
Colin loves LSU. He's not going anywhere.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6577 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:18 am to
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For the rare player that is essentially a guarantee to play 3 years before pro, it actually makes more sense to start college eligibility early


Is there any instance where a player reclassified to play early, then had immediate success enough to jump at 3 years to NFL? I can’t think of one (in football)

Hurley is a year in, has taken zero meaningful snaps, and is running 3rd team now only because guys transferred out.

Odds are, he’ll be a RS Sophomore on 2nd or 3rd team in 2026, behind a junior starter and his eligibility clock will be ticking. He’ll be a RS Senior when he maybe gets to start with 1 year to try to prove himself to scouts.

Had he shown up in this cycle, he’d have an extra year of growth and experience, could redshirt next year, be backup to a junior/senior and then take job as a RS Junior for two years, including the possibility of the second year starter growth that so many see.

I’m just saying that reclassifying to go early adds unnecessary risk to the process for any kid.

Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
12651 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:29 am to
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Colin loves LSU. He's not going anywhere.
They all go if they are offered more money.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17092 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:42 am to
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Had he shown up in this cycle, he’d have an extra year of growth and experience

Extra year of growth and development in an SEC college program >>> any high school growth or development.

Going to be a close battle this Spring for the backup job.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3120 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:51 am to
Love the kid. Hope he earns a starting role at some point.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6577 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:53 am to
No doubt…but the tradeoff is that the extra year of growth in high school costs zero eligibility on your limited window. The SEC level training is way better, but it costs you a year.

The decision isn’t “is a year of college prep better than a year of high school prep”

The thing that must be balanced is “if I only get 5 years of college prep, am I in a better position to succeed as an athlete if I start those 5 years after I maximize my high school time or if I skip that early preparation?”
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7457 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:22 am to
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Colin loves LSU. He's not going anywhere.


Do you know how ridiculous this sounds?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17092 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:46 am to
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Had he shown up in this cycle, he’d have an extra year of growth and experience, could redshirt next year, be backup to a junior/senior and then take job as a RS Junior for two years, including the possibility of the second year starter growth that so many see.

I would say the biggest argument to staying in high school would be NIL related. He wouldn't have gotten Underwood money, but he was a 5 star before reclassifying and would have gotten a huge "NIL" payday in this year's signing class. Especially if everything happened as it did with Underwood and Collins, leaving LSU even more desperate.
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1750 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:51 am to
You got a good feeling That’s cool
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12635 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:22 pm to
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The decision isn’t “is a year of college prep better than a year of high school prep”

The thing that must be balanced is “if I only get 5 years of college prep, am I in a better position to succeed as an athlete if I start those 5 years after I maximize my high school time or if I skip that early preparation?”

This.

He’s obviously getting better coaching, nutrition, S&C, etc. at the SEC level than he would in high school. I don’t think anyone is questioning that. It’s more a question of whether you are better off starting your eligibility timer with one more year of physical & mental maturity. I think for most kids the answer is “yes.”

I’ll say this though - Hurley will be in a much better position to win the starting job as a RS-sophomore in 2026 than he would as a RS-freshman (had he not reclassified). So from that standpoint, I think his decision to reclassify looks to be pretty beneficial for LSU as of right now.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4898 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:29 pm to
You only get X years of football. And high school doesn’t pay.

If you’re going to make it in the League, odds are good (though admittedly not guaranteed) that you don’t need extra development in HS. You need to get the ball rolling on developing as a professional.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6577 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:07 pm to
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You only get X years of football. And high school doesn’t pay


He’s not a running back. As a young QB in the NFL, you better be well prepared because your position is less dependent upon freakish ability than it is about your ability to process information based upon your experience.
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