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re: I'm becoming convinced that WW will be cleared

Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by LSUfanaddict
somewhere in TX
Member since Apr 2007
2095 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:24 pm to
That is because the NCAA will have to wait until the FBI is through.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6028 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:34 pm to
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Absolutely false. he can discuss anything he wants to. There is no gag order on the case. He has chosen to not say anything and hide behind his lawyers.

Further, WW's "legal issues" are even more the reason LSU needs to talk to him and find out what's going on.

Tell you what... get a job, have something embarrassing and potentially part of a court case leak out to the media that involves your employment, refuse to meet with your boss, and let me know what happens to you.


Nobody said anything about a gag order. But when you've been subpoenaed, anything you discuss can be used against you, and, as I understand it, LSU had NCAA officials on the phone, and his lawyers told him not to go.

That makes plenty of sense to me.

As for me having a job and doing something to get myself in hot water, or being accused of something bad, that is an apples to oranges comparison. Most bosses don't care about protecting workers in every day jobs. They'd just fire me to rid themselves of the distraction.

It's a LOT different when you have a coach who you are paying over 2 million a year, who has taken your program to great heights in a short period of time. Who does it hurt to let the facts play out? If he ends up being guilty, they can cut ties with him then. Instead, they may have screwed themselves, no matter what happens with the NCAA investigation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:53 pm to
Wade will not be cleared but I highly doubt he will have to testify. I'll bet it's settled before then. I'd say his chances are 75%

This is just a warning shot across the bow from a few high profile coaches that didn't like Wades recruiting class and the way he's dealing.

Wade and LSU will then sit down, go through the motions and he'll be back for the tourney or next year. This s all just formalities
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6028 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:58 pm to
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Wade will not be cleared but I highly doubt he will have to testify. I'll bet it's settled before then. I'd say his chances are 75%

This is just a warning shot across the bow from a few high profile coaches that didn't like Wades recruiting class and the way he's dealing.

Wade and LSU will then sit down, go through the motions and he'll be back for the tourney or next year. This s all just formalities


Well, I've been on record as saying I expect him back by the NCAA tournament, even though many seem to believe that if he isn't reinstated this week, he's done.

My biggest concern is beyond this year, does he really want to coach here, after the way he's been treated? I'm leaning toward no. But if LSU fires the people responsible for the botched handling of this situation, then I'd say there's a strong possibility he stays. That's all just a gut feeling, though.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 7:01 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58408 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:58 pm to
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That is because the NCAA will have to wait until the FBI is through.



Will Wade isn't under investigation by the FBI either. Swing and a miss.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9152 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Will Wade isn't under investigation by the FBI either. Swing and a miss.

But the FBI has information about Wade that the NCAA wants. Namely the phone recordings.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:06 pm to
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does he really want to coach here, after the way he's been treated?


Hes being treated well. He understands what's going on far more than the average TD poster.

He said it himself, he understands what's happening.

He will be happy as hell to get reinstated
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58408 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:08 pm to
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But the FBI has information about Wade that the NCAA wants. Namely the phone recordings.



How does this refute what I posted?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37314 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Will Wade isn't under investigation by the FBI either. Swing and a miss.


The NCAA has said multiple times they are not going to start investigating ANY of this until the FBI is completely finished.

So, yes, the NCAA will have to wait until the FBI is through (not have to per se, but is choosing to)
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37314 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:22 pm to
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It's a LOT different when you have a coach who you are paying over 2 million a year, who has taken your program to great heights in a short period of time.


In the eyes of LSU, clearly, it's not different at all.

quote:

Instead, they may have screwed themselves, no matter what happens with the NCAA investigation.


In what regard? If WW gets his feelings hurt and leaves, bye Felicia. And someone will have to buy out his contract.

Look, I completely understand WW's desire to not want to talk to LSU officials about this, at this time. That doesn't change the fact that LSU officials have a job to do, and part of that job is trying to get WW to talk so they can find out what is happening, and potentially limit any further damage.
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:32 pm to
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But the FBI has information about Wade that the NCAA wants. Namely the phone recordings.
and the FBI will tell them to pound sand they don't have to give them shite so next narrative
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:38 pm to
There's not a poster on this site who, if they were an administrator at LSU, would have reacted any differently than the board and staff did
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35122 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:38 pm to
I could see him being cleared and then deciding to leave because of the way Joe handled this whole situation. It was a disgrace
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
6166 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:50 pm to
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I'm becoming convinced that WW will be cleared



He might, but I think he's done at LSU (maybe even by his own volition). Even if he's cleared, I have a feeling he will leave even if it's the NBA.

I saw one poster say that he might stick around one more year and then bounce. Seems somewhat plausible.

We need Emmert 2.0 more than ever.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:51 pm to
Wade is on tape, twice, about paying players. The NCAA is aware of it and it’s going o be VERY hard to explain it away.
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

But the FBI has information about Wade that the NCAA wants. Namely the phone recordings.
where
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48887 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:01 pm to
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This is all starting to sound like Bill Jefferson and his "reasonable explanation" for the cash in his freezer, which, to this day, he still has not given us.



It also depends on what the definition of “is” is.
Posted by minvielle
Youngsville, LA
Member since Nov 2014
3909 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:02 pm to
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If he won’t meet with LSU admin now, what changes? I still don’t understand what could/would be discussed that his legal counsel is worried would be troubling for the April trial. It is not like the meeting would have legal bearing or be on the record to the public. If he can’t defend the conversation today, what changes later?

He is certainly losing the court of public opinion right now.



Maybe but I would wager that He will meet with LSU as soon as the trial is over or is settled. Why? Because LSU can’t decide to put him in prison for what he says or doesn’t say. Sure they can fire him. But people get fired all the time and believe it or not can still lead successful lives. And I know he is a witness and not on trial, but perjuring yourself is still a crime, is it not?
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5729 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:38 pm to
Doesn’t matter. The administration basically threw A great basketball coach under the bus. No way he stays at LSU after this shite show, and LSU will have a difficult time finding another coach like Wade who would want to coach under this administration. Back to Johnny Jones and the cellar boys. Just accept it.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8541 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:41 pm to
The NCAA filed a motion with the court that tried the case in October, requesting to gain access to 20 something documents, specifically naming the Wade tape previously revealed.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 8:43 pm
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