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I’ll set the bar fairly for LSU football in 2018

Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:48 am
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:48 am
“Tiger Ree, get the hell out of here.”

5-3 in the SEC. Have to beat the teams with new HCs. I’m handing out passes for losing to Bama and UGA at home only because this is a new OC/QB/RB/WRs. There is talent in everyone of those positions, which is why they should win the other 5 SEC games. Auburn and UGA are winnable games and LSU must compete. Bama may be a monster with Tua but LSU must compete. I am handing out one final pass if the MOV gets to double digits but stays at or under 14.

LSU must beat Miami and it’s bowl opponent to finish 10-3. Wins against UA, UGA or AU may be substituted for close losses against UM or a top 10 bowl opponent.

LSU must finish with no more than 3 losses and go into next year with momentum as a concensus preseason top 12 team or the season was not successful. That is the bar for 2018, no exceptions or excuses will be accepted.



Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8158 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:53 am to
Fair would be 10+ wins and in the hunt for the conference championship and playoff. We supposedly hired Ed Orgeron instead of a real candidate for the sake of continuity, so the rebuild excuses are especially worthless.
Posted by smil3432
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2016
377 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:56 am to
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I’m handing out passes for losing to Bama and UGA at home


Holy lowered expectations
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:57 am to
That is 10 wins.

In the hunt is a bit much with all offensive skill positions with almost no prior production. Next year is absolutely playoff contention post Alabama or bust.

You are not being fair. As it says in the title, I am.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21276 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

I’m handing out passes for losing to Bama and UGA


Does the team know, yet?

I’m sure they would be interested to know they can those weeks off.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:59 am to
I’m not calling for the defeat of last year’s NC contenders while LSU has brand new QB/WR/RB/OC. That wouldn’t be fair.

I am nothing, if not fair.

You are why LSU fans have a silly reputation.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20361 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:00 am to
I'll be surprised if we do any better than 8-4 to be honest, really surprised.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:01 am to
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Does the team know, yet?


Yes, they have been notified.

There can be no weeks off. The bar requires close games in those 3 and that will take monumental effort.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89552 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:05 am to
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LSU must beat Miami and it’s bowl opponent to finish 10-3. Wins against UA, UGA or AU may be substituted for close losses against UM or a top 10 bowl opponent.


I think this is pretty fair - should we stumble - say lose a highly competitive squeaker to the U, 24 - 21 or something like that (could go either way), but then (it must be considered a) steal against Bama or UGA would even that out. I don't consider beating Auburn a "steal", but neither do I for Florida at this point.

But, we're going to be in 6 extraordinarly difficult SEC games and 2 against tough opponents whom we shouldn't take for granted. Or, as we like to call it, "football season."

ETA: If we go 5-3 in conference and lose either Miami OR the Bowl game (or any mid-major or rent-a-win OOC game) should heat up the seat for O to make 2019 a make-or-break.

Under these conditions, 10 wins is a par. 11 wins might warrant an extension (and suggest the needle is moving). 9 wins is what got Miles fired.

Fair is fair.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29143 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:06 am to
what i expect:



i don't care what the record is or how it gets done. just make it happen.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23100 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:06 am to
Letting UGA and Bama come in to BR and win isn't going to sit well with me.


If you look at UGA and Bama's schedule, they'll both be undefeated coming to TS. Winning one of those would be huge for the program and it's exactly what O needs to recruit on.

Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21339 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:08 am to
The expectations for the program do not change because we hired a head coach who's supporters believe he cant meet them. The expectations don't become what a "good job" is for that particular coach. You either meet the programs expectations or you leave.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:10 am to
#NextYearU
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:13 am to
Way too high for “expectations”.
There could be some surprises and things can go better than expected. 7 wins total is very realistic. I believe that is the current “Vegas” number.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:14 am
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:24 am to
7 wins should get Orgeron fired. No excuse for that at LSU.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:27 am to
quote:

7 wins should get Alleva fired.


FIFY.

No way in hell should that clown pick another HC.

ETA Alleva wouldn’t fire O if he went 3-9. He hooked his cart to that horse.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:32 am
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:29 am to
quote:

The expectations for the program do not change because we hired a head coach who's supporters believe he cant meet them.



I just factored everything in and set the expectations so now I just need you to do 2 things:

1. Deal with it

2. Stay in your lane.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14419 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:32 am to
Just curious. Anyone can answer.

A&M which has unlimited resources, a popular national brand, consistently solid recruiting classes and is in a talent rich state. They just hired Jimbo the QB whisperer who brought FSU back to national prominence. A&M has been a bowl team every year in the SEC.

What are the expectations for A&M this year?
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:32 am to
Brand new QB, new running backs (for the most part) new offense, and new OC. The defense should be great, but there are some up front questions.
The schedule is brutal. 2 of the first 3 games away from home against top 10 teams.
I’m not saying LSU can’t beat The U and Auburn, but they might play well and not win. Then LSU is 1-2 with La Tech at home. That has to be a must win, but don’t sleep on Tech.
Games against UGA,Bama, at UF. That could be 5 losses right there
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:34 am to
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That has to be a must win, but don’t sleep on Tech.


Is this really what we’ve become under Orgeron?

We went from hoping for wins against Bama, AU, and UGA to hoping for wins against MSU, A&M, and LA freaking Tech?
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 11:38 am
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