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re: If you were a football player, why would you not get Covid now on purpose?

Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:50 am to
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:50 am to
How would you go about "getting it"?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:21 am to
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How would you go about "getting it"?


There are apparently 30 or more players with it now. It’s extremely contagious. Get in close proximity. Share drinks, food, etc. Seems more difficult not to get it.

The more important aspect is to get that positive test and do your quarantine.

There is no doubt in my mind this is going on. It’s why they are publicizing these “outbreaks” so they can say that the virus already burned through the team.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:13 pm to
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No proof of immunity

To me, that's the big issue; we don't know if you can get it more than once, or not.

Someone said "it ain't chicken pox", that's also unknown.

With the flu, the virus mutates enough that you can get it multiple times, as your immune system doesn't recognize and react after enough change.

Now, chicken pox, like any other virus, is also a problem; you never "lose" a virus once you get infected. Your body just builds defenses against it, and you're healthy again. But then, chicken pox is always there, and 40-50 yrs later, it DOES come back. That's what Shingles is, and why it hits people in middle-age. Added- and btw, they don't "catch" it, they already had it from the first infection as a child. So it's still contagious, but if you ever had chicken pox, you're now eventually going to develop shingle, not CATCH it.

And also, stress weakens your immune system, so virus recurrences become more likely when you get stressed out. That's why some folks have cold sores that recur when they get real stressed.

We have no idea what Covid does long-term. Does it come back in 40 years? If so, that puts a current football player in his 60's the next time around, and that puts him close to the "might need a vent" age group.
I don't know if I'd want to do that to someone.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36896 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Sorry, I'm not playing your game of "what if." Please come to the discussion with some facts....just one, please.
Weird. I'm merely pointing out that there's lots we don't know. We've literally only got several months of data from which to figure this thing out. I'm sorry that I can't provide you with an article from the future.

quote:

"This appears"....once again, no facts.
Weird. The article says scientists believe this is the case with Dengue Fever. Not sure what else you are looking for. There are examples of viruses that not only don't confer durable immunity, but which also appear to be WORSE upon future infections.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
3638 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:21 pm to
Coronavirus is making young people very sick

A couple of excerpts from the article:

"The day before I got sick, I ran three miles, walked 10 more, then raced up the stairs to my fifth-floor apartment as always, slinging laundry with me as I went.

The next day, April 17, I became one of the thousands of New Yorkers to fall ill with Covid-19. I haven’t felt the same since.

The second day I was sick, I woke up to what felt like hot tar buried deep in my chest. I could not get a deep breath unless I was on all fours. I’m healthy. I’m a runner. I’m 33 years old.

I am one of the lucky ones. I never needed a ventilator. I survived. But 27 days later, I still have lingering pneumonia. I use two inhalers, twice a day. I can’t walk more than a few blocks without stopping."

This is a new virus which attacks the lungs. Unless you want to risk permanent loss of lung function you should not try to get this.

Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7172 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:45 pm to
There will always be outliers and anedoctal evidence of "young people very sick". It's why you run across heartbreaking stories of 25 year olds who die of brain cancer. But those are outliers, not the norm. You would be very hard pressed to find someone you personally know or are removed 1-2 degrees from that is the same age and has the same health characteristics and has suffered like the person in the article.
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11335 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:46 pm to
We are barely scratching the surface of this disease in the last 6 months.
Who the hell knows what will be the story in another 6 months? another year ?

Yeah, everybody in the alleged "safe" age/health group go out and contract the disease so you don't have to worry about it again.
We don't even know what we don't know about this thing yet and you want people to intentionally contract it? Dumb! But then this isn't a place I come for accuracy and clear thinking anyway.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31967 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:07 pm to
So, I assume you are living in a bubble until a vaccine is approved?

Because everyone will likely get it eventually, especially people who are living life, going to school, restaurants, bars, church, protests, etc.

This is not about get it or not get it. This is about controlling WHEN you get it.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:24 pm to
Not what he said. Testing positive for antibodies does not ensure you will never get the virus again.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:26 pm to
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Please post a link disputing it. I posted a link above.


You posted a link about speculation
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11335 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:27 pm to
Actually, I'm pretty much going about my business. I wear a mask where there are crowds, and I usually avoid crowds. So, no I'm not in a bubble.
It just seems stupid to intentionally try to go out and pick up the disease when we are still not certain about so many factors. Who knows what will be the story in 6 months?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31967 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:45 pm to
Then you will get it, or perhaps have already had it.

Preventing everyone from getting it has never been a goal.

I am only stating that, assuming you will likely get it, it would be better to be in control of the variables around WHEN you get it.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
21484 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:47 pm to
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This is not about get it or not get it. This is about controlling WHEN you get it.


Why don't you test the theory out and go and get it intentionally yourself? Then get back to us and let us know how it worked out.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31967 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Why don't you test the theory out and go and get it intentionally yourself? Then get back to us and let us know how it worked out.



This thread is about football players who have a lot of money in future earnings at stake.

But since you appear very concerned about me, I’ve lived a normal life and have changed almost nothing since this began. I assume I’ve already had it. If not, I’m certainly unconcerned about it. Thanks for your thoughts.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
21484 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:15 pm to
Fine since this thread is about football players, if you had a son that played D1 Football would you advise him to intentionally contract the virus?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36896 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:23 pm to
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This thread is about football players who have a lot of money in future earnings at stake.
What % of LSU football players is this true for? Seems like you need to dig the stats up on that first.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31967 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:23 pm to
Yes, if it meant not missing games.

This virus is nothing to a young, healthy age group.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31967 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:27 pm to
Ok take money out of it.

What about players that just want to play and have worked their lives for this opportunity?

What if you’ve been a back up and this is finally your chance to shine?

What if this is your senior year?

What if you are in a heated positional battle and two or more weeks of quarantine could mean you lose and ride the bench?

Again, I’m not stating this should be a team policy.

I’m saying if I was an individual player, I would do this.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36896 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:36 pm to
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Ok take money out of it.

What about players that just want to play and have worked their lives for this opportunity?

What if you’ve been a back up and this is finally your chance to shine?

What if this is your senior year?

What if you are in a heated positional battle and two or more weeks of quarantine could mean you lose and ride the bench?

Again, I’m not stating this should be a team policy.

I’m saying if I was an individual player, I would do this.
I think I might also. However, I'm not sure what that has to do with a "heated positional battle". You can still go to practice without "trying to get it on purpose".

Again, I only answered the direct question of why might a football player not get covid on purpose.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31967 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:39 pm to
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However, I'm not sure what that has to do with a "heated positional battle". You can still go to practice without "trying to get it on purpose".


You are neck and neck with another player for a starting position. The week of game one, you test positive. You go in quarantine for two weeks, he gets to start and practice for two weeks.

You’ve ultimately lost the job.
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