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If we would’ve hired Elko, the rant would revolted
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:25 am
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:25 am
Everyone says BK is such a bad hire. Did they think about the other options at the time? Kiffin, Riley, Napier, Aranda, and I don’t even know who else.
Look the fact is that we came out with a great coach. BK has turned the ship around bringing us back into national championship contention and took us to Atlanta his first year. If we hired any of those guys after O, our program would be the next Nebraska. Y’all forget fast how our players essentially quit on the team.
Now I think his coordinator hiring needs to be lit up though. Sloan was not the guy and was a good ole boy in house hire. We’re running the same offense as last year with a pro style qb. It’s egregious and on Kelly. However, I still think we got one of the best HC out there.
Look the fact is that we came out with a great coach. BK has turned the ship around bringing us back into national championship contention and took us to Atlanta his first year. If we hired any of those guys after O, our program would be the next Nebraska. Y’all forget fast how our players essentially quit on the team.
Now I think his coordinator hiring needs to be lit up though. Sloan was not the guy and was a good ole boy in house hire. We’re running the same offense as last year with a pro style qb. It’s egregious and on Kelly. However, I still think we got one of the best HC out there.
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:28 am to r0cky1
didn't have to give him 10 years.
I think that's the most concerning part. Nobody wants this ceiling for another 7 seasons.
I think that's the most concerning part. Nobody wants this ceiling for another 7 seasons.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:33 am to r0cky1
We are not in national championship contention.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:39 am to OJsLifeCoach
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I think that's the most concerning part. Nobody wants this ceiling for another 7 seasons.
“Ceiling” is speculative. You have no idea what Elko’s ceiling is either.
Elko did not coach some masterful game on Saturday. He was fortunate to not be down 27-7 at the half. 17-7 was on Hilton’s stupid jump and the holder. The biggest coaching mistake there was playing a guy for the first time this season in a big game. You’d all be flipping out wanting to fire Kelly if he went down 27-7 in the first half, even in his first year when he had 10% of what Elko has now, to work with.
The 2nd half Elko didn’t outcoach us either. Baker being caught with his pants down does not equate to a great coaching job on Elko’s part. He put in a running QB and had a very simple, predictable offense. Big deal.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:40 am to OJsLifeCoach
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didn't have to give him 10 years.
I think that's the most concerning part. Nobody wants this ceiling for another 7 seasons.
you did if you wanted to hire Brian Kelly. You aren't getting a high level coach from a program that is pretty close, equivalent, or better than yours by giving him a 3-4 year deal. It just isn't happening. The only reason he came was the dollar amount and years, both of which people complain about. Without those things, we would've ended up with an unproven coach and the OP is correct, people would have revolted.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:41 am to LSUStar
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We are not in national championship contention.
We're not out of it either.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:41 am to LSUStar
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We are not in national championship contention.
And have to prospects of being there soon.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:46 am to TN Tygah
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Elko did not coach some masterful game on Saturday. He was fortunate to not be down 27-7 at the half. 17-7 was on Hilton’s stupid jump and the holder. The biggest coaching mistake there was playing a guy for the first time this season in a big game. You’d all be flipping out wanting to fire Kelly if he went down 27-7 in the first half, even in his first year when he had 10% of what Elko has now, to work with. The 2nd half Elko didn’t outcoach us either. Baker being caught with his pants down does not equate to a great coaching job on Elko’s part. He put in a running QB and had a very simple, predictable offense. Big deal.
Why is this whole dissertation about Elko? I don’t want Elko. I just wish we didn’t give Kelly a decade.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:50 am to r0cky1
Elko was a great hire considering the budget they had to accommodate. That being said he inherited a lot of talent and will probably never win anything meaningful in his tenure at A&M. In fact, their team this year isn't good which makes this loss much more unbearable.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:58 am to OJsLifeCoach
Yes ! If you decided you had to give him 9 to 10 million a year … dont give him 10 years guaranteed . At his age , there is not so much motivation to work extremely hard . Just human nature . Same thing happened with Jimbo . I think burnout for these high level coaches is real .
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:00 am to OJsLifeCoach
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didn't have to give him 10 years
How exactly do you think they got him to come to LSU?
He had already turned down LSU’s overtures in the process.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:01 am to hashtag
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You aren't getting a high level coach from a program that is pretty close, equivalent, or better than yours by giving him a 3-4 year deal
in what world is nd better or even equivalent to LSU in modern day football?
There's no doubt money was a big factor but Kelly believed he had maxed out what nd can do in the 21st century and wanted to try and end his career with a title, so he chose a place that is more set up to do that than almost anywhere else.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 8:02 am
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:01 am to r0cky1
So you are mad that people are criticizing BK but them you criticize him for some of the same stuff that everyone else is in the same post?
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:07 am to r0cky1
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Everyone says BK is such a bad hire.
A handful say that. More people probably said O was a bad or lazy hire than said BK was a bad hire. Don't be swayed or triggered by the incredibly loud minority plus a few trolls (many of whom are hilarious I might add
to those guys) after a loss. Do what I do, tye stuff in to respond, say "nah" to yourself and leave the page or occasionally hit enter and usually regret it
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:16 am to r0cky1
The rant would have revolted with the Nick Saban hire in 2000 as well. A coach with a 34-24 record at Mich State would have this place nuclear
Who cares?
Who cares?
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 8:19 am
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:21 am to skullhawk
There are issues with scheme and play calling , issues recruiting , issues with assistant coach hires . Next time get a young hungry coach . Make the contract performance based and shorter . Bama didn’t give DeBoer 10 years guaranteed . They learned from the Jimbo A&M fiasco .
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:22 am to OJsLifeCoach
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didn't have to give him 10 years.
no idea how the negotiations went. However, to lure him from ND, I'm sure we had to give him 10 years. you can say, well we shouldn't have. but if BK is who he wanted, it likely took a lucrative offer to get him out of place he'd been at for a long time, and oh by the way, they were in the midst of a playoff run.
people need to temper their expectations a bit. this roster is still being built today. there are things to bash bk on, taking the ball first all the time if you hate that, slow starts, our run game is definitely pretty shitty.......but he's getting a team that is still lacking LSU talent and depth, still winning 9-10 games while brining in a monster class, and that's not going to stop either.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:23 am to Gus007
quote:On3 Football Team Recruiting Rankingsquote:And have to prospects of being there soon.
We are not in national championship contention.
2025 LSU 2
2024 LSU 4
2023 LSU 5
2022 LSU 17
On3 Football Team Recruiting Rankings
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:49 am to Zippydog
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Bama didn’t give DeBoer 10 years guaranteed
8 years
not that much of a difference
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:50 am to r0cky1
Would have loved it. He made Kelly's teams at notre dame, jimbos atm team, and took a tiny arse buyout and basically prove it contract compared to today's ridiculous $$ thrown around.
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