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re: If we can't get consistent protection for Nuss against 3-man defensive fronts....

Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66188 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:31 pm to
Well we were getting 7+ yards on just about every screen. We popped one that could’ve gone for a TD and another big one that was called back. We ran a couple runs OT that went for 4+ yards but never went back to it. At halftime that should’ve been recognized and leaned on until the stopped it but we seem to just cycle through plays hoping we bust one. Sloan has no sequencing in his play calls.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
16017 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:32 pm to
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The OL is CLEARLY the problem we have.


Run blocking yes
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2284 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:33 pm to
Well, we can all hope Nuss does actually heal and then can move a bit more. I think if he can move a bit more, not a lot just a bit, and we can then toss to the outside a bit we can do a lot to open up the back and stop them from playing a prevent type secondary.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42401 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:41 pm to
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What is this fake hypothetical?

He was sacked once against OM.
7 QBH



You're not allowed to bring facts here, Jim!


Read that like Dr McCoy is saying it
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1686 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

quote:

The OL is CLEARLY the problem we have.
Run blocking yes


I guess you didn't watch the game where the announcers were basically clowning LSU most of the game, pointing out play after play after play where three OM pass rushers were breaking through the OL to give Nuss fits? So it's not just run blocking, it's passpro as well.

I don't care what your "stats" say about QBH - plain old eyesight would have told you what the problem was in that game (and every other game, for that matter).

I'm not hating on the Tigers, but I'm not going to sugarcoat a problem that we ALL knew was coming since spring, nor will I excuse an OC that doesn't seem capable or willing to adjust to the players he actually has to work with and putting them in a position to succeed - instead of asking them to do something they obviously aren't capable of doing right now.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 6:13 pm
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6433 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:21 pm to
Protection is not the problem
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1686 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Protection is not the problem
What would you call using your OL to keep defenders away from your QB while he's trying to pass? Isn't that pass protection?

Something that our OL isn't capable of doing very well right now, for whatever reason.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5114 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:35 pm to
Pass block also. There is a reason they are not letting Nuss hold the ball long.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6433 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:47 pm to
The data does not support your conclusion. Likewise , even when a team gets pressure it bc Nuss held the ball too long. Ole Miss gave him easy completions in every attempt. Some plays he took advantage, some he did not, some he missed. He still forces passes down the middle. When they dropped 8, he could have hit the deep out and second drag/settle EVERY time. Most times the back in the flat was open too , especially when the receiver on that side ran a go or post. They gave him more than enough to patiently take and put up 28-35 points.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6433 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:12 pm to
In 184 pass attempts, LSU has allowed only 7 sacks. 1/25 is pretty damn good. Total sacks given up ranks in top 20. Sacks per passes is more like top 5. Obviously there are more pressures , but again many of those are Nuss choosing to hold the ball bc he wants to force something downfield. The reason Joe was so good is that he was patient enough to dunk and dunk you to death. Auburn is the ONLY team that dropped 8 all game in 2019. Oklahoma tried to drop early and he dinked them to death. They they tried pressure and he crushed them in the 2nd quarter. If Niss had the patience of Joe/Job, he could do the same. Use what they give you as an extended run until they change their approach. Then beat beat them with the long ball. My guess is that you will see a lot more run defense /drop 8 on passes going forward until he proves he has patience.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22182 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:19 pm to
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That’s funny because LSU fans were saying Moffitt was washed up and needed to go in his last few years at LSU.


People were on his arse back then for the same reasons. Perception of getting physically whipped at the LOS. Crazy how people forget what they saw back then.

Personnally, I dont buy in to the lack of physical preparation then or now. I believe perfromance is a personal talent issue 95% of the time.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6433 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:26 pm to
Most of our problem is scheme. We run RPO concepts on running plays , yet the QB is not a threat to run. The DEs and LBs don’t have to play with any discipline. We rarely run a post or TE off the action too. Yet our blocking scheme is NOT aggressive as if we are worried about being downfield in a pass play. Run a damn counter out of shotgun. Run a true draw out of shotgun. Run a play action out of the formation when ZT motions to RB. Put MVB in on 4ds to go or less and run RPO. Something to keep a defense honest.
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
1914 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:30 pm to
We can't get consistent protection mostly because Nuss can't make a decision fast enough, refuses to run and, runs backwards way too often. NUSS IS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
2445 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:31 pm to
That can’t even be right, I remember 2 times he was sacked from a 3 man rush against ole missi
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22182 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:34 pm to
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Something to keep a defense honest.


One of the posters on the Scoreboard after the OM game was commenting on the predictability of our playcalling. I was amazed that I saw the same things with out really studying it. He listed a few like...

If 10 motions across the backfield it is a run
If a WR lines up in the BF it is a run.
If a sub RB comes in like Berry it is a run.
If WR motions throught he backfield at the snap it is a run

and on and on...
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
16017 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:12 pm to
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I remember 2 times he was sacked from a 3 man rush against ole miss


The one where Dashawn Womack was penalized for being offsides?
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5114 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:16 pm to
Uh, Ole Miss was dropping 8 while getting pressure with 3.

OL is the issue, not Nuss. There is a reason the coaches are getting the ball out of his hands early.
Posted by FrankandBeans
Member since Sep 2022
641 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:21 pm to
The Oklahoma D-Line may break Nuss for good. That’s the game that scares me the most.
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
2445 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:24 pm to
Probably. That game was so frustrating to watch that I’ve forgotten a lot of the details.
Posted by saltytiger2
Pride, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2916 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:09 pm to
Nuss getting pressured on pass plays is not killing this offense. Where do you people get this shite?
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