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re: If the bowl game offense is similar to the aTm game-offseason positivity?

Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:17 pm to
do you think jennings is suddenly going to start playing at a level where LSU can win the SEC?
He had 5 total TD's in the SEC. to compare blake sims had 20 in SEC alone.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 3:18 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:19 pm to
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This has nothing to do with what we are discussing.


Do you realize that only 13 teams out of the 128 listed in FBS threw for fewer than 2000 yards? Only 23 threw 14TDs or fewer. And YOU stated that would be a great year?

So, even if we get that awesome improvement, we would still be in the bottom 10% in category 1 and bottom 17% for the other!!!

Frankly, everything you said after that stupidity should be entirely disregarded.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:20 pm to
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do you think jennings is suddenly going to start playing at a level where LSU can win the SEC?


Anything is possible. We don't need him at a "high" level to win the SEC IMO. If he can make some improvements, and the play calling stays more like the A&M game, that should be enough to be competitive.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:20 pm to
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Just win


in a manner that is acceptable to all the negatigers.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Explain how that has any relevance to discussing AJ's hypothetical improvements.
It would mean that you and everyone in here would consider that to be one shitty fricking QB if he were on a team that we were about to play. That's how.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:23 pm to
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Anything is possible. We don't need him at a "high" level to win the SEC IMO. If he can make some improvements, and the play calling stays more like the A&M game, that should be enough to be competitive.
We rushed for exactly the same amount of yards last year as this year and our QB threw for over 3000 yards on top of it. And you think that if we can elevate this shitty QB to 2000 yards and 14TDs we won't have problems?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:25 pm to
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Do you realize that only 13 teams out of the 128 listed in FBS threw for fewer than 2000 yards? Only 23 threw 14TDs or fewer. And YOU stated that would be a great year?


A great year within our system you dense moron. Try to understand it this time instead of posting emoticons.

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Frankly, everything you said after that stupidity should be entirely disregarded.


Says the guy that can't understand how increasing AJ's QBR, QB rating, etc 20 % the next two years would make him better than bad. I really feel sorry for you that you just can't grasp that. But I'm sure you'll post another and think you've made a point.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:25 pm to
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And you think that if we can elevate this shitty QB to 2000 yards and 14TDs we won't have problems?


So you're abandoning your whole rating stat now because you realized it makes you look stupid?

ETA: I'm over this. You clearly can't comprehend anything and we're just going to keep going back and forth. Have the last word, you totally deserve it.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 3:26 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:33 pm to
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So you're abandoning your whole rating stat now because you realized it makes you look stupid?
I didn't abandon it. I never changed from my original of looking at the ESPN link I provided. You just didn't want to use that one.

On that link, he's got a 48 rating. Improving by 20% year over year would result in an eventual about 69 rating placing him around Gary Nova of Rutgers.

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Have the last word, you totally deserve it.
In this thread, that's probably the first nonsensical thing you've said.

Oh. And AJ blows and it would be a goddamned miracle if he even elevated 20% year over year to achieve being rated 32nd in the country. THIRTY SECOND!!!
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:37 pm to
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Can you explain it to me?
Harris isn't very good either.

He may be great, right now, they have decided he is not the best choice.

What this means is there is no magic bullet or personnel package that will make us not suck offensively, while against good defenses.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:44 pm to
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Harris isn't very good either.


how does anyone know this? he isn't getting any playing time.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:03 pm to
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Call me crazy for not getting excited if we move the ball well against a team that has allowed everyone to do so.



nobody has called for excitement. I clearly used "positivity" in the title. Which it would be a good thing for the young guys.
Posted by tgerb8
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:16 pm to
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What this means is there is no magic bullet or personnel package that will make us not suck offensively, while against good defenses.


While this is probably true, there is no reason not to give Harris some meaningful snaps. Besides, I'm not sure I trust Miles regarding magical bullets. If Beckwith isn't a "magical bullet" - I've never seen one. We gave up 328 yds/game in our last five games (which included Alabama, Ole Miss, Ark., and T&M).. vs. 292 in our first 5 games(which included Sam Houston State, New Mexico State, and ULM)

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Harris isn't very good either.

In any measureable category, he's been much better than AJ against the same teams. He may not be very good, but any actual evidence says he's better.


Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:29 pm to
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We will score against ND


Possible....


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rack up about 350 yards on the ground



I doubt that... This is NOT A & M........



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be 8-20 passing for 91 yards.


If that's all the passing game can do LSU will lose.....
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:57 pm to
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I doubt that... This is NOT A & M........


True. Total Defense ranking for aTm is 101 of 125

However, Notre Dame's defense isnt ranked in the top 50 of FBS teams this year.

Some teams that made the list:

Akron, UTEP, Western Michigan...

Notre Dame - 69 in total defense



Oh, yeah LSU is ranked 8.

Total Offense?

aTm is 31
ND is 35
LSU is 77

so the 77th offense vs the 69th d and
the 35th O vs the 8th d

Notre Dame's Rush D is 62nd
LSU's Rush O is 27th

LSU's D is better, the Rush is better...

I like the tigers chances.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:42 pm to
notre dame gives up on avg 161 yards per game rushing
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:47 pm to
I think LSU will increase that average.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:52 pm to
So this place should be positive right now?
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:54 pm to
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So this place should be positive right now?


I dunno

There are obviously concerns, namely in our QB play, as Jennings didn't really show much or any tangible improvement over the year. That's not to say he can't improve, and of course there's that Harris guy waiting in the wings that could end up being a damn good QB. The concern in our QB position is definitely valid, though.

But there are also reasons to be optimistic, especially if we see more imaginative play-calling and scheming as we did against A&M in the bowl game and going forward. So I guess it's up to the individual if they want to be positive or not. I, for one, don't see the point in being eternally pessimistic about a game, especially if there is reason for optimism, such as a plethora of young and inexperienced talent that should only get better. I truly believe this freshman class will bring us a national title before they leave. Too much talent at too many positions.

I think it all hinges on Miles' ability to show a LITTLE bit of flexibility. We don't need some seismic shift in offensive philosophy as some say. I love having a predominately rushing attack that wears down the opposition and eats up clock to keep the D fresh. However, that can be accomplished without being obnoxiously predictable, as we were for almost the whole year. And the development of a competent passer, be it Jennings or Harris will go a long way as well. There's got to be SOME threat of an intermediate passing game.
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