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re: If the bowl game offense is similar to the aTm game-offseason positivity?

Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:08 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:08 am to
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Never going to happen, so why even have this as a possibility in your mind? Do you just need an excuse ready to justify being miserable after the game?

Actually, even though I'm negative about AJ's prospects, the following scenarios isn't 100% impossible to imagine.

1)The coaches have believed AJ could develop but felt he was overly rattled during the season and on a week to week basis, played it safe with him

but

2)Given a few weeks of preparation and the ability to play before a non-home crowd, a coach might think that's a lower pressure situation and decide to see if AJ can elevate under such circumstances.

You know, it IS possible to be very negative about our QB situation and still consider possibilities that are outside of what I might expect.
Posted by timm6971463
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:13 am to
Amenn Cas
Posted by timm6971463
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:18 am to
shorty while you might be negative on the Qb,it is refreshing to have a fan admit that what he thinks might not be positively right, The negatigers on this board suffer from Im Godly in my opinion syndrymn
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:40 am to
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I expect us to run the ball and will be disappointed if we go away from that. I just don't see Jennings really getting better at throwing. He's a sub 50% passer. I don't think the extra practices are going to fix that. That is something he's going to have to work on all offseason. I don't know who ND expects back, but their team mailed it in. Their defense has been atrocious.



the only fix for our offense is a terrible defense.

We added a sweep for the Ags, not exactly a seismic change. Good defenses would have eaten us up on it, but it was A&M.

We will score against ND, rack up about 350 yards on the ground and be 8-20 passing for 91 yards.

Just good enough that we decide we are great. Probably get a great game out of Quinn and Dupre. Until we run into the teeth of a SEC defense next year..then we will bitch about the QB.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:43 am to
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Given a few weeks of preparation and the ability to play before a non-home crowd, a coach might think that's a lower pressure situation and decide to see if AJ can elevate under such circumstances.
like Iowa? AJ was 7 for 19 for 80 yards. Stats that he duplicated almost every game this year. AJ is what he is with prep time or without, bad.
Posted by timm6971463
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:45 am to
so far harris in not so particular who he throws too !
Posted by tgerb8
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:51 am to
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If the bowl game offense is similar to the aTm game-offseason positivity?


Step 1 for offseason positivity - Hawkins and Vadal return.

Step 2 for offseason positivity - There is an actual QB competition/change.

Saying that the offense did well against aTm and (hopefully) ND is about as worthwhile as saying the offense did well against Sam Houston State.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Saying that the offense did well against aTm and (hopefully) ND is about as worthwhile as saying the offense did well against Sam Houston State.



not even a little bit true

you don't think beating ND (the winningest program in history) in a bowl game and having a good offensive showing would benefit the freshmen? And aTm is a divisional game. Pretty sure both of those are a lot more worthwhile than beating SHS.

I agree with your other points though, and hope/believe Harris wins and gets the job next year.
Posted by NotRight37
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:20 pm to
First of all just win the game. Bowl games are always tough to determine because of the intensity of play differential in many of the match ups. One could argue that ND needs this game more than LSU. I hope our guys are motivated.

After that I hope Harris gets a couple of series. I think he could do well with what LSU did in the TAM game. I would like to see the WRs actually get open more consistently rather than out running everyone(Dural) or making a great catch(Dupre). Nothing wrong with either of the above, but it would be nice to improve the route running.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 12:23 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:20 pm to
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You know, it IS possible to be very negative about our QB situation and still consider possibilities that are outside of what I might expect.


You will never see AJ attempt 47 passes in a game. I doubt you see a Les Miles coached LSU team ever do that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Saying that the offense did well against aTm and (hopefully) ND is about as worthwhile as saying the offense did well against Sam Houston State.


What a stupid thing to say. It almost didn't warrant a reply. Almost.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:24 pm to
Im going to witness L7's record breaking performance live, so I can say "I was there."
Posted by NotRight37
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:25 pm to
I agree LNCHBOX, rarely do we see hyperbole on this board.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:33 pm to
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Given a few weeks of preparation and the ability to play before a non-home crowd, a coach might think that's a lower pressure situation and decide to see if AJ can elevate under such circumstances.

like Iowa? AJ was 7 for 19 for 80 yards. Stats that he duplicated almost every game this year. AJ is what he is with prep time or without, bad.


Hey. I don't expect it to happen. I'm pretty on record as saying that from what I've seen, AJ simply doesn't have it meaning that he will flat out not develop into an even decent QB.

Hell, if forced, that's how I'd bet. But, I'm smart enough to know that even if I think I'm almost always right on such things, that doesn't mean I'm right 100% of the time. I'm 47. I've been surprised before.
Posted by Adam4LSU
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:36 pm to
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If the bowl game offense is similar to the aTm game-offseason positivity?


To me? Absolutely. I loved the offense we ran in that game. Jet sweeps, Zone reads, power run, play action pass, etc. We executed PERFECTLY almost all night and without a few bad breaks that game isn't even close.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:38 pm to
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and hope/believe Harris wins and gets the job next year.

I don't get this. What difference does it make who's the QB as long as productivity improves from that position? I don't want to see Harris become the starter just for the sake of becoming the starter, I want to see whichever QB is best step up and improve the passing game. It doesn't matter to me who that is.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:41 pm to
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I don't get this. What difference does it make who's the QB as long as productivity improves from that position?
Honestly, the reason one has to hope Harris IS the real deal is because AJ is literally HISTORICALLY bad. If the dude improved 20% year over year, he'd still be bad.

I mean yeah, theoretically, you don't care who the QB is as long as he performs. The "hope" for BH has a lot less to do with any facts we have about BH as it has to do with the facts already in regarding AJ.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:42 pm to
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You will never see AJ attempt 47 passes in a game. I doubt you see a Les Miles coached LSU team ever do that.
Well that's why I didn't suggest 47!

Hell, I don't expect Miles to have ANY QB throw it 47 times unless we're getting smeared by someone and spending the whole game trying to come back. Even then, I'd probably be stunned at 47.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:43 pm to
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Saying that the offense did well against aTm and (hopefully) ND is about as worthwhile as saying the offense did well against Sam Houston State.



What a stupid thing to say. It almost didn't warrant a reply. Almost.



Well, it is an exaggeration but, it is also true that how we do against those two teams is not terribly informative about how we'll do against a team that has an OK run defense.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:43 pm to
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If the dude improved 20% year over year, he'd still be bad.


AJ of 2016 would have a completion percentage of 70% based off a 20% increase each year. I'd say that's a little better than bad.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 12:45 pm
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