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If Kiffin takes the 3 pts every time, what is the final score
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:54 am
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:54 am
Let’s say instead of gambling on it, Kiffin took 3 points. Doing the math it feels like that game is a 29-24 type of win.
Sure it wasn’t the red zone finishing drives you wanted but it’s a freaking win. Am I wrong or what? Going for it over and over it reckless.
I’m even of the opinion that in the UK game, punting and trusting your D was the right choice. The D failed several times down the stretch in that game.
If you’re going to build an identity on tough nasty defense, you have to play complimentary ball. Pin them deep and trust the D.
Sure it wasn’t the red zone finishing drives you wanted but it’s a freaking win. Am I wrong or what? Going for it over and over it reckless.
I’m even of the opinion that in the UK game, punting and trusting your D was the right choice. The D failed several times down the stretch in that game.
If you’re going to build an identity on tough nasty defense, you have to play complimentary ball. Pin them deep and trust the D.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 11:55 am
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:56 am to turnpiketiger
I agree with that or at worst it would have set us up under 5 to tie the game or win it in regulation.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:57 am to Bottom9
Teams that go for it over and over feel like they have to because their defense is awful. That’s big12 mentality.
Situational awareness
Situational awareness
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:00 pm to turnpiketiger
Kicks field goals and we don't go for it in our own redzone on 4th and 10 and we are in the game looking to win at the very end.
Also if Leavitt doesn't take a sack then throw a pick in the first half in FG range we are in a much better spot.
Also if Leavitt doesn't take a sack then throw a pick in the first half in FG range we are in a much better spot.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:01 pm to turnpiketiger
We missed the 56yd FG.
3-3
Could’ve taken 3 on 4th & 4 from the 9.
10-6
Could’ve taken 3 on 4th & 3 from the 36. (54yd attempt so not a guarantee, but this is a hypothetical)
17-19
In the 4th quarter & it’s a different game. Maybe they still score again to make it 24-19, but there is still 9min left in the game
We’re definitely not going for it on 4th & 10 from the 25
3-3
Could’ve taken 3 on 4th & 4 from the 9.
10-6
Could’ve taken 3 on 4th & 3 from the 36. (54yd attempt so not a guarantee, but this is a hypothetical)
17-19
In the 4th quarter & it’s a different game. Maybe they still score again to make it 24-19, but there is still 9min left in the game
We’re definitely not going for it on 4th & 10 from the 25
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:03 pm to turnpiketiger
What I don’t understand is eschewing easy field goals but attempting a 56 yarder
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:04 pm to JimTiger72
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We missed the 56yd FG.
3-3
Could’ve taken 3 on 4th & 4 from the 9.
10-6
Could’ve taken 3 on 4th & 3 from the 36. (54yd attempt so not a guarantee, but this is a hypothetical)
17-16
In the 4th quarter & it’s a different game. Maybe they still score again to make it 24-16, but that’s a 1 score game then
And we presumably don't go for it on 4th and 10.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:04 pm to JimTiger72
Going for it down 17-13 well within FG range was dumb.
That seemed to take the air out of everything.
Then going for it again well within our own territory ended it.
That seemed to take the air out of everything.
Then going for it again well within our own territory ended it.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:05 pm to CatfishJohn
I updated the numbers. It would have been 17-19 or 24-19 assuming we make a 54yd FG
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:07 pm to turnpiketiger
I think that’s how Alabama game planned.
They gave LSU First downs and easy throws all over the field. Their objective was to win the high leverage moments and Lane tripped over his dick multiple times and it worked to perfection. They’ve seen him do it multiple times in these kind of games and that’s what they were banking on.
This is exactly how Ole Miss lost to Alabama in 2022 when Alabama was ripe for the picking.
They gave LSU First downs and easy throws all over the field. Their objective was to win the high leverage moments and Lane tripped over his dick multiple times and it worked to perfection. They’ve seen him do it multiple times in these kind of games and that’s what they were banking on.
This is exactly how Ole Miss lost to Alabama in 2022 when Alabama was ripe for the picking.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:08 pm to One Arm Steve
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What I don’t understand is eschewing easy field goals but attempting a 56 yarder
It was 4th & 9 from their 38 yard line. Our literal best case scenario is a 37 yard punt. With our punter, it's more likely we end up with an 18 yard punt.
The first turnover on downs was 4th & 3 from their 36. Same place on the field, but very different down and distance. He clearly believed that the conversation was higher percentage than attempting another similar field goal, while still believing that a punt accomplishes little.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:09 pm to turnpiketiger
Taking the points early is almost always the right choice unless you’re just completely outmatched.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:09 pm to turnpiketiger
Kiffin is still haunted buy the 4th and 1 in Kentucky game that he didn't go for. It impacts his decisions. It is probably the most important play calling decision that will remain with him for a long time.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:10 pm to turnpiketiger
Ya'll know what you signed up for when they hired Lane Kiffin. He's a reckless coach who never beat Bama, and shame on y'all for thinking he could do that here.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:11 pm to turnpiketiger
If it was the rule that brought you here, of what use was the rule?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:12 pm to turnpiketiger
It's impossible to know because of so many variables and the butterfly effect of Alabama may have changed their approach. But lets play it out.
He takes the FG in the 2Q to make it 10-6
LSU then forces a punt.
With the score 10-6 and LSU getting the ball to start the second half, maybe LSU is not as desperate to get a TD before the end of the half and, thus, avoids the INT. But even if they don't it is 10-6 at HT
LSU gets a FG to start the 3Q to make it 10-9. Alabama punts. Then LSU scores a TD to make it 16-10 (Lane probably would have went for 2 though)
Alabama responds with a TD and its 17-16 going into the 4Q.
In the 4Q LSU passed on what would have been a 53 yard FG try. MAYBE he makes the FG to put the score at 19-17. The teams then trade punts and Alabama gets the big return. Let's say they score to make it 24-19.
After that, I think the game comes down to a final LSU offensive drive needing a TD to win
He takes the FG in the 2Q to make it 10-6
LSU then forces a punt.
With the score 10-6 and LSU getting the ball to start the second half, maybe LSU is not as desperate to get a TD before the end of the half and, thus, avoids the INT. But even if they don't it is 10-6 at HT
LSU gets a FG to start the 3Q to make it 10-9. Alabama punts. Then LSU scores a TD to make it 16-10 (Lane probably would have went for 2 though)
Alabama responds with a TD and its 17-16 going into the 4Q.
In the 4Q LSU passed on what would have been a 53 yard FG try. MAYBE he makes the FG to put the score at 19-17. The teams then trade punts and Alabama gets the big return. Let's say they score to make it 24-19.
After that, I think the game comes down to a final LSU offensive drive needing a TD to win
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:54 pm to CalTiger53
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Kiffin is still haunted buy the 4th and 1 in Kentucky
He should be. Season killer right there.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:06 pm to turnpiketiger
I believe this kicker has missed several attempts from within 50, if he misses any of your hypothetical kicks we are not within the realm of winning the game. Maybe the kicker needs to become Mr. Automatic so LK can trust him with the kicks.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:15 pm to CatfishJohn
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Kicks field goals and we don't go for it in our own redzone on 4th and 10 and we are in the game looking to win at the very end.
Yeah, if he knows the outcome of a gamble before committing to the gamble he would do much better. I thought the 4th and 4 at the six was a bad gamble, but it was close to an even bet. It wasn’t a horrible decision just a slightly bad one. Going for it was worth about 2.2 points and kicking was worth about 2.97 points. So BEFORE the decision the coach made a mistake worth about 3/4 of a point.
The 4th and ten criticism is much ado about nothing. The game was lost at that point. It didn’t matter what we did. My two cents on the call was that I would have gone for it and thrown a bomb, because that was really the only chance we had. Catch them guarding the ten yard marker, give them a fake and go. Catch a TD there and it’s a game. Other than that it didn’t matter a whole lot what happened there.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:14 pm to turnpiketiger
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hey gave LSU First downs and easy throws all over the field.
No game plan "gives" the opposing team first downs.
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