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re: If Herman or Jimbo had just had the exact same season, the vibe would be way better

Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13307 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:21 pm to
Wrong. 9 wins was a pretty good season considering what we had to overcome on the lines of scrimmage. If you can't understand that, then you just don't know football. We were severely undermanned on both sides of the ball at the Los and we came out ok. Add in the fact that we had etling at qb and i say a 9 win season isn't bad at all for this team.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:23 pm to
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Coach O was successful this year


Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38669 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:23 pm to
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The O regime appears to be one of chaos and dysfunction




O shoots from the hip, he has no guiding vision. This is probably why he is a very good interim head coach. He trims the fat, motivates well enough, doesn't have the power to make big decisions, and is merely concerned with getting the best out of some else's work. This is a specific skillset.

He doesn't have the knowledge to build a system or a strategy, and the interim position lacks that need for that. It's all about recalibrating slightly. I mean, this was the sell of O in the first place....that we just needed to get a better Offense, trim some Miles friends from the coaching ranks, and we'd win. As soon as O tries to do the things he thinks.....

Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13307 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:24 pm to
Some of these "lsu fans" are dilusional. What did they really expect from this team this season? Even before we had the attrition we did up front, in the sec no less, I would have said a 9-4 season was a success. We had our chances and should have won 2 more games (troy and nd), in which we were the better team and let the games slip away. I'm optimistic about next season under orgeron.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:26 pm to
Passing the buck for your boy, the recruiting coordinator under the the previous coach, for flaws in recruiting. Amazing.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:28 pm to
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All but one of the Miles offenses scored more ppg than this new one did in 2017.

because having a bad season ,under jimbo,is the outlier of his career.

while Ed Orgeron's career is built upon bad seasons
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 9:19 pm
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7592 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:31 pm to
9-4 is a good season. If you want to have good seasons that’s fine. The enemy of great is good. The steps are not currently in place for this to be a great, championship caliber program.
If Herman and Fisher had been 9-4 this year fans would still be pissed but it would at least be more evident that the administration was trying to do something to make the program great
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39525 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:36 pm to
Absolutely. A bad season like this under O gives you zero hope for the future because he’s never done it before. It’s crazy to think this isn’t who he is
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 8:37 pm
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:41 pm to
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everything this team had to overcome

Overcome what? A loss to Troy? There’s no overcoming that. Overcoming a schedule in which we only beat two teams with winning records?
I’m confused what this team had to overcome. As far as I’m concerned, this team was handed atleast an 11-2 record based on who was on our schedule and CEO messed that up.
But ya know, that gumbo good.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:24 pm to
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Some of these "lsu fans" are dilusional. What did they really expect from this team this season? Even before we had the attrition we did up front, in the sec no less, I would have said a 9-4 season was a success




and before you say it.....
no coaches dont publicly say they are going to make the playoffs

also, no one was talking rebuild until this staff herpderped its way into 2 historically bad losses.
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We had our chances and should have won 2 more games (troy and nd), in which we were the better team and let the games slip away


what? troy fricking dominated us.
we never led for a single second and we were down 24-7 with 7 minutes left in the game.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 11:32 am
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25671 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:32 pm to
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Coach O was successful this year.Why are you such a LSU hater.


You call losing to Troy and Mississippi State by 30 successful? For fricks sake man.
Posted by Howboutdat
Member since Dec 2017
39 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:40 pm to
We are not far from Texas tech or South Carolina!! LSU is a mediocre program. LSU fan base is the reason O is the HC, no one wants to coach here!!
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:41 pm to
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Howboutdat


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We are not far from Texas tech or South Carolina!! LSU is a mediocre program. LSU fan base is the reason O is the HC, no one wants to coach here!!



You’re literally dumber than a pile of shite
Posted by Howboutdat
Member since Dec 2017
39 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:44 pm to
I am what you eat!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73543 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:47 pm to
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Losing to a sunbelt team and only going 9-4 with a schedule that clearly warrants atleast going 11-2 will getting anyone’s seat warm.

Here's what should have happened. We beat State but lose to Auburn. We also should beat Troy. That's 10-2 and we actually went 9-3. I'm not going to get into hypothetical bowl situations if we had gone 10-2. So we finished one game lower than we maybe should have, but probably higher than most expected coming into the season. No one should be satisfied but at the same time no one should be melting over this either.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73543 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Look no further than Will Wade, he instills confidence in the fan base. People can be patient if they see a vision for the program and a process building to something

The O regime appears to be one of chaos and dysfunction

Comparing what Wade was hired to do and what Orgeron was hired to do are apples and oranges.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73543 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:52 pm to
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The steps are not currently in place for this to be a great, championship caliber program.

Can you please list those
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7592 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:45 pm to
sure.

1). A united fan base that can bring energy and dollar bills to the program.

2). Administration alignment. Same message from President down to the janitor. There is too many moving parts right now

3). Staff continuity and alignment. Too much smoke to think their isn’t an issue between O and Canada.

4). Holes throughout depth chart. Offensive line, wideout, qb, outside backer, K/P. Have to have a tiered depth chart and no team can function at a high level with so much missing pieces.

5). It’s not cool to be a LSU Tiger right now. This can be seen by how many in state kids are leaving and the fact that the heavy hitter 5 star nationwide kids aren’t talking LSU like they did 5-10-15 years ago.

6). Firing a coach for lack of performance and then promoting from within is 100% lunacy.

7). Obviously the problem with being able to effectively and efficiently execute the offense.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
32174 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:52 pm to
I didn't have to look for anything not to like about the hire.

It is plain as day.

The man's history, track record, etc....all speak volumes .... so, easy to see that this is a terrible experiment.

It needs to be ended as soon as possible.

LSU will never achieve greatness or even relevance with O as HC.

That is the cold, hard truth.

frick giving him a chance... he never earned one.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
8042 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:00 pm to
I don’t have enough time to ask it in every thread with O sycophants drooling all over themselves..but here goes..one more time


Can you Name One school...any division...that would want to hire O as their HC? And if so..why? And organizing nutria hunts is not a valid reason.
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