re: I was the biggest critic of Maineri but he never bottomed out like this.

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It’s a blanket and modern excuse used for every sport and it’s only the current generation who started with this crap.

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Reasons are not excuses. The generational dig makes no sense considering things are extraordinarily different than how they were for the first infinity years of amateur athletics.

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No two seasons are the same so if you wanted to you could slap it on anytime you wanted which is what people do now.

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But that's not what we're doing now.

In 2008 you would get a bowl ban for doing too much of a player's homework. In 2026 you have to pay a player's former team a million dollars to buy out his contract to have the right to pay the player 5 million dollars.

In 2007 if you saw potential in a kid, you would tell him to come and redhsirt for a year, then sit for a year, then get a shot as a redshirt sophomore, all at a place like LSU which no one else in college baseball could compete with facility wise.

In 2026, that player takes a hundred thousand dollars out of your pool, sits for a year, then transfers to another school that will pay him half a million dollars with a guaranteed spot and he'll get to train in a new 40 million dollar facility.

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This has nothing to do with JJ or CPM or any coach, it’s about the pussification and excuse making of the modern fan.

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This seems like a personal issue that has no relevance to this thread. Most people are able to talk about how much different and more challenging it is to coach in modern college athletics without complaining about millennials or something.

Nick Saban, Tony Bennet, Tony Vitello, and Jay Wright. A bunch of Gen Z pussies, am I right fellas?

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I could point to drastic rules changes in every sport within eras.

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If you could find me a single one as impactful as the transfer portal or NIL, I'll give you a cookie.

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That’s subjective and everyone is dealing with it.

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I mean sure it's subjective, but you can't find one as subjectively as impactful.

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Has it hurt recruiting? Not one bit

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It has hurt program building to an extreme. LSU has benefited from it, sure. But it's also a crap shoot every year. I'm sure Jay would rather keep his guys in the program and develop them as opposed to hoping a one year guy out of the Summit League translates to the SEC.

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This statement makes no sense at all and I could say the bats change was more impactful

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I was making a point that I don't think anything compares. The bat change was impactful but could be managed much easier. PM just overreacted, but that's neither here nor there.

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Look I get it, it’s obvious you don’t want JJ catching any blame but I’m not blaming him

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Didn't say he shouldn't catch any blame, just think it's retarded to insinuate (not that you have) he's lost it or can't do what he's done here twice again.

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this isn’t about stat you think it’s about so stop pushing it in that direction.

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I mean I responded to your post laughing at a comment that was discussing the differences between PM and JJ tenure, so can you blame me

Doesn't matter. Don't need to argue this further. We'll agree to disagree on the other stuff.

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I was the biggest critic of Maineri but he never bottomed out like this

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he missed the tourney twice and possibly a 3rd but was saved by covid.

No the bats changed how you had to play and how you had to construct teams. It’s just as impactful and NIL does have issues of course but we’re on the beneficial side of NIL comparatively so it’s not as impactful in a negative way to us. Like I said and you agreed it’s a subjective topic but you’re describing them in tier meaning not subjective. Can you drop the JJ thing, if Hail said this about an NBA team I’d have laughed at the comment, this has zero to do with anyone in particular. I get that my post was a continuation of a discussion but I really was just commenting on the logic of the excuse and that’s it.

Paul’s worst 5 year stretch in SEC play got him fired. JJ’s first 5 years is even worse than that and the pumpers still claim he’s the best coach in baseball.

I don’t need to rely on flukes. I need a coach that constantly wins at a high level. 77-72 ain’t good enough for me.

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he missed the tourney twice and possibly a 3rd but was saved by covid.

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One of the misses was his first year ('07). The other 2011. We were 13-17 in the SEC. Same as in '24 when we did make it.

Pt being, if you gonna apply 'bareley's', they need to be applied consistently.

Pulmonary isn't a pimple on JJ's arse.

In the last 6 years JJ has made the cws 3 times with 2 different programs and winning 2 titles in those visits. It's safe to say this season is the outlier.