re: I was completely floored

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Agree, however his number of check downs

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Once Swann came in it became pretty clear, pretty fast who was responsible for the offensive play calling woes. And it wasnt either of the QBs

I'll let you do the maths

If you include runs Daniels had more plays than Nuss in their first season starting at LSU. It’s funny you guys add or subtract volume stats to suit your bias. INTs aren’t volume stats for example but passing yards are. It’s nothing but double standards here.

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when ESPN showed Nuss’s “first year starter” stats compared to Burrow’s and Daniels’ first year starter stats. Wasn’t even close. It was Nuss in a landslide.

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It’s a blessing for him and a curse for us because he is likely gone. This is probably a better year for him to go with the bad QB class.

You can tell he loves football, and that's a good thing....he never quits, and that's good too.

He needs help in all areas, the line, run game, ball catchers, and play calling.....hope he can put it together next year.

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Are we talking about a different Joe Burrow? The one I know ran for like 600 yards and was as fast as some DBs.

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No indeed not. He was as fast as the linebackers, though. Nuss is every bit as athletic as Burrow; both are great athletes. Nuss has a much better arm, too. What made Burrow so great is that he is super cool in the pocket, and he just does everything right. Nuss has that pocket-anxiety in him.

Well, he is kind of a squatty body - not the gazelle like strides of Burrow or (esp.) Daniels - but he can get it done when he has to if they are going to just give it to him.

Comparing seasons 6 or 7 years apart with different coaches their stats alone aren’t sufficient to compare the two.

JB showed up the summer before the season with far less actual game experience (zero meaningful snaps as 3rd or 4th string) and an offense and teammates he didn’t have any experience with prior to showing up in the summer.

JB came in and took leadership role from the start. Starting with taking on the defense and going through the bowl game he had a chip on his shoulder. I can’t remember for sure, but I don’t remember throwing off his back foot constantly being a thing. I can’t remember if anyone came into hand ball off late against Southeastern, but the Rice game where Brennan came in for only time that season may have been JB’s only break.

The 2018 offensive play calling was also predictable. The OL improvement in 2019 was about finally mixing things up and playing at a faster pace instead of the DL likely knowing what was coming and also able to shift/adjust before snap from sideline calls.

Nuss has a better arm and has put up some good stats for first year as the starter, but he has been here for 4 years (I think) in 3rd year under Kelly, had several games before this year with significant snaps including during the SEC Championship and starting the bowl game last season, and is playing in much more pass happy offense than Burrow in 2018.

I think Nuss will continue to improve, but just comparing stats to Burrow in 2018 doesn’t have much predictive value about how much improvement he will show next season if any. Nuss has to improve in areas not directly measured by stats.

Give him a 1000 yard back and his passing numbers will be insane. A 1000 yard back means an elite o-line though. We'll see I guess.

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when ESPN showed Nuss’s “first year starter” stats compared to Burrow’s and Daniels’ first year starter stats. Wasn’t even close. It was Nuss in a landslide. If he comes back and improves second year anywhere close to JB and JD second year improvement, it could be special.

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Please stop the madness. Sure, Burrow was better in 2019 after his first year starting, but the talent was always there. The reason his stats sucked in 2018 was the outdated offensive dinosaur system he was was playing in... A Les Miles/Steve Ensminger system! If he would have had the Joe Brady offense or any other RPO type wide open offense, his stats would have been like Nuss or better this year. Its the system he grew up in, so he was very limited in 2018, but the talent was always there.