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re: I think we’ll be fine at the defensive tackle spot this year
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:04 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:04 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Dline:
Guillory
Lee
Washington
Womack
Think you messed up here. Shand is going to be starting at one DT position when playing a 4-3 or 4-2-5. And you listed 3 interior guys and only one outside guy. I would say Guillory and Shand start in a 4 man front look. IMO, Lee has shown little so far and Washington of course an unknown but I'm not expecting him to be a starter.
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:08 pm to NotaStarGazer
I have Washington at nose and Guillory and Lee at tackle with Womack as a stand up guy
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:11 pm to NotaStarGazer
Again, just because guys are moving inside, doesn't mean they will even be good enough to see snaps at that position.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:24 pm to NotaStarGazer
Shand is damn good against the run. DT is his money position for the NFL.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:30 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Anyone who thinks we’re fine at DT is delusional. We’re going to have a below average SEC defensive line this year unless we get a couple of big transfers from the portal in the spring.
Having bodies is one thing. Having guys who can actually make plays is another thing.
Having bodies is one thing. Having guys who can actually make plays is another thing.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:32 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
If they move inside, it’s because we are in a bind
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:43 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I think you are completely blinded by purple and gold glasses. If this were any other DL in the SEC you would be saying how terrible they will be and laughing.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:10 pm to Brazos
Will be fighting for the worst DL in the SEC award
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:11 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I think some of us will be surprised on what elite coaching can do to actually develop players.
Excited for the Fall.
Excited for the Fall.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 6:16 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Corner Ryan Stamps
I don’t see Stamps starting over Brown or JK Johnson
Posted on 2/10/24 at 6:21 pm to LSBoosie
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And what makes you think that they will be any good inside?
What makes you think that they won't? Do you believe that our new defense will be playing 4 DTs? Put JG and another 300lber inside, and the 280 lb guys on the DEs. We'll be better than we were last year just having a good (if not great) coach coaching the DT's and Peoples coaching the Ends and Edges. Maybe you just shouldn't watch football this year. I think we're going to be a lot better on defense. Not great maybe, but decent would've had us in the playoffs this year.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:49 pm to Tiger997
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What makes you think that they won't? Do you believe that our new defense will be playing 4 DTs? Put JG and another 300lber inside, and the 280 lb guys on the DEs.
You think you can get through the season with only 2 DT's? You need at least 4 DT that can rotate throughout the year. This post isn't about DE's it's about DT's. And if those guys are 280, they aren't playing the defensive tackle position unless you want to lose a lot of games.
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We'll be better than we were last year just having a good (if not great) coach coaching the DT's and Peoples coaching the Ends and Edges.
Upgrading coaches is obviously great. But you are also losing your 3 best defensive tackles. You can't just make that up by moving guys from DE or the offensive line.
quote:
Maybe you just shouldn't watch football this year.
Oh, you're one of those guys that responds to anyone that criticizes the team with "maybe you shouldn't watch"
quote:
I think we're going to be a lot better on defense.
Cool. I hope we are. This post is specifically about the defensive tackle position which is a major concern as of now.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:00 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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We will have 9 defensive tackles this year and we had 9 on the roster last year.
While technically true, all depth is not created equally. Last year you had Smith, Wingo, Jefferson, Guillory, and Lee - all pretty big guys (Wingo being the smallest) and all fairly experienced (Lee being the least experienced, I think). Wingo still wound up having to play an absurd number of snaps.
This year you have Guillory, Lee, Washington, and the rest are either converting from DE or are incoming freshmen.
If McKinley comes in and contributes immediately, Guillory stays healthy, Washington turns out to be a legit starter, and one or both converting DE’s have success… it could be a very deep group.
OTOH if McKinley takes some time, Guillory gets injured, and we don’t get as much as we hope out of Washington/Shand/Jones.. DT could be a major liability.
I know that all sounds obvious but my point is just that there are a lot of unknowns with this group. I think it’s reasonable to be anywhere from concerned to cautiously optimistic but beyond that it feels like a crapshoot.
One thing we do know is that we have a much better coaching situation on the DL. Hopefully that turns out to be the difference maker.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:33 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
quote:
I think we’ll be fine at the defensive tackle spot this year
I appreciate the positive outlook but we play in the SEC West.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:36 am to lostinbr
Right now the talent looks worse than last season and that group was terribly weak in the middle of the defense.
Maybe we can grab a couple of more projects from Jr. college or Nichols/McNeese that we “hope” can actually contribute.
Maybe we can grab a couple of more projects from Jr. college or Nichols/McNeese that we “hope” can actually contribute.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:57 am to PUB
McKinley and Shone will help, but I think we will be slighly less than fine. The other guys need to put on at leat 20 pounds. I'm expecting McKinley to show up at 290+ in the fall.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:24 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Mckinley needs to grow up fast and be able to play 20+ snaps a game and Shone Washington needs to be the real deal or it's going to be ugly.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:21 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Wishful thinking. We better hope Shone becomes the player we hoped he would be when we recruited him out of high school. He is really the key to us trying to reach average level play at DT. Not sure what went wrong for him at Georgia, but this is his chance.
Counting on freshmen at DT in our league, including McKinley, is not a good bet. Neither is so many guys at 280 or less. It is likely one of out starting DTs is not on the team yet.
At least we have good coaches in place.
Counting on freshmen at DT in our league, including McKinley, is not a good bet. Neither is so many guys at 280 or less. It is likely one of out starting DTs is not on the team yet.
At least we have good coaches in place.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:28 am to NotaStarGazer
Savion never learned to set the edge all year. That was his biggest problem last year. New coaching staff hopefully improves his technique and/or strength. He sure got pushed around last year. He needs to improve regardless of which spot he plays next year. We need to see his name on the workout warrior lists multiple times this off-season.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:40 am to LSBoosie
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And if those guys are 280, they aren't playing the defensive tackle position unless you want to lose a lot of games.
Bro what?
There’s plenty of guys that are that weight that do absolutely fine. Weight isn’t the end-all on the lines. You think Wingo was 310? Davon Godchaux came in as a freshman at 260 and ended his season being one of the better DLmen in the conference. 280 is closer to the norm these days anyway. You’ll be hard pressed to find a 320+ DT unless they’re an athletic freak of nature.
ETA: what matters far more is strength and technique. They have a great strength coach and they’re now being coached by one of the best in the game. OP is correct that LSU will be “fine” in the sense of “good enough”
We had size galore last year with Maason Smith and he did frick-all. Turns out being 6’6 320lbs didn’t mean shite if you had no technique and the scheme sucked.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 8:44 am
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