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I think Orgeron learned a lot this year
Posted on 12/12/17 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 7:49 pm
You know people dont talk about this a lot with Coach O but he is a fairly young coach when it comes to head coaching experience. He had his one stint at Ole Miss which of course everybody knows but that was only 3 years.3 years as a head coach is not a lot of experience. You could argue being a head coach at an elite program like LSU is completely different than like a program Ole Miss. Throw in the fact interim coach is also not the same as head coach . Coach O met some adversity this year, adapted, and has GROWN as a coach.
Im kinda excited about next year.
Im kinda excited about next year.
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 7:52 pm to lsutiger2
Next year we play
Saban, Richt, Malzahn, Smart, Fisher. 2 of the 5 have NCs. This is not when you hire someone to learn on the job.
Saban, Richt, Malzahn, Smart, Fisher. 2 of the 5 have NCs. This is not when you hire someone to learn on the job.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 7:58 pm to lsutiger2
Next year is the year we have to see a step forward. Spare the new QB excuses. Well have an experienced OL and a beastly defense and our toughest games in BR. Now is the time to win the west. We will always have to replace players and will almost always have a brutal schedule.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:02 pm to Macavity92
I don't think the OP's point was that Ed was hired TO learn on the job but that he wasn't static. He improved. That's a positive.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:03 pm to lsutiger2
He may not have a whole lot of experience as a head coach, but putting O and young in the same sentence is not exactly a practical thing to do.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:04 pm to lsu2006
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Next year is the year we have to see a step forward. Spare the new QB excuses. Well have an experienced OL and a beastly defense and our toughest games in BR. Now is the time to win the west. We will always have to replace players and will almost always have a brutal schedule.
QB position is not there yet. I'm sorry, but it isn't. We also need a QB this year and the next. We need more competition to make them all better. A lot of damage was done by Miles with regard to the reputation of the QB position. They are getting hit in every direction on the recruiting trail with it.
Keeping Canada is critical IMO because Brennan should be pretty aware of the playbook and should be able to work on things in the Spring and Summer. A new OC, means and new system, etc.
QB position not there, and some huge question marks at RB. I mean, that's a big deal.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:05 pm to lsutiger2
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You know people dont talk about this a lot with Coach O but he is a fairly young coach when it comes to head coaching experience. He had his one stint at Ole Miss which of course everybody knows but that was only 3 years.3 years as a head coach is not a lot of experience. You could argue being a head coach at an elite program like LSU is completely different than like a program Ole Miss. Throw in the fact interim coach is also not the same as head coach .
You just made a very good argument as to why Alleva was a moron to hire O as the permanent head coach.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:06 pm to Macavity92
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Saban, Richt, Malzahn, Smart, Fisher. 2 of the 5 have NCs. This is not when you hire someo
I don’t think they have played in years.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:08 pm to lsutiger2
Well we’ll see, he said he’d learned from past experience and the head coaches he’d worked under since but still he meddled and overcoached with the offense early until he was told to stop. That’s not learning that’s a kid having to be diciplined. He’s done some good things, recruiting on the line of scrimmage has taken an uptick and we are more buttoned up from an organizational standpoint on the field but we can’t have the early season mess we had this year. Injuries and inexperience payed a part there’s no doubt and the State game wasn’t mostly on him but second guessing his OC and changing the offense vs Troy along with the qb flip flop early on are bad signs. Maybe it was the pressure of the new job but that’s over now and next season has to be better. We did well overall but with Brennan and the defense next season we need to challenge for the division and conference.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:08 pm to cra_cra
I know we will have inexperience at QB and RB position but we can't always blame the QB excuse. There are a lot of teams out there who win and do it with freshman or first year QB's
hopefully someone steps up and does well
hopefully someone steps up and does well
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:10 pm to cra_cra
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QB position is not there yet. I'm sorry, but it isn't
Good thing next year doesn't start for another 10 months. It's not absurd to think that a first year starting sophomore with a little experience could step in and get the job done.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:15 pm to Madking
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Madking
Did you fall and hit your head? You're sounding pretty damn reasonable right now
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:16 pm to Macavity92
quote:So saban?
Saban, Richt, Malzahn, Smart, Fisher.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:16 pm to lsutiger2
Orgeron played a lot of lame duck coaches and lost to Troy and still got beat down by Bama. He needs to win me over, but I do give him credit for not letting Troy ruin the season and beating McElfrick
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:17 pm to dos crystal
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Saban, Richt, Malzahn, Smart, Fisher. 2 of the 5 have NCs.
That would be 3 out of 5 have NC.......and Smart has a chance to make it 4!
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:25 pm to lsutiger2
Next Year U...
If you were talking about Lincoln Riley, Scott Frost, Tom Herman, etc. I'd be with you. But you're talking about a 56 year old dude. Sorry, but I'm unimpressed by "he learned a lot this year".
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I think Orgeron learned a lot this year
If you were talking about Lincoln Riley, Scott Frost, Tom Herman, etc. I'd be with you. But you're talking about a 56 year old dude. Sorry, but I'm unimpressed by "he learned a lot this year".
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:29 pm to TchPowDog
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Tom Herman
Really?
This bag of shite impressed you by playing in the Texas Bowl against Mizzou?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:32 pm to lsu2006
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Next year is the year we have to see a step forward. Spare the new QB excuses. Well have an experienced OL and a beastly defense and our toughest games in BR. Now is the time to win the west. We will always have to replace players and will almost always have a brutal schedule.
What you smoking Baw? You actually think next year with a new QB, and newly acquired depth on both lines of scrimmage, and no experience at running backs we got us a team ready to go to Atlanta? You think all we missing is a coach not named Orgeron, and now we got a championship team?
2019 looks to be our year, as long as Orgeron continues to fill the needs of this team left empty by Miles.
You better put that shite you smoking away Baw.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:37 pm to deftones
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This bag of shite impressed you by playing in the Texas Bowl against Mizzou?
You must be "def".
Did I say I was impressed by Tom Herman? No.
Did I imply that I was impressed by Tom Herman? No.
Did I reference Tom Herman because of his age? Yes.
Does referencing Tom Herman's age mean I'm impressed by him? No.
Keep up, smalls.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:57 pm to BigWalt
If we don't have an SEC-caliber RB next year, whose fault is it? And why is "newly acquired depth" on both lines a negative? That strengthens the argument that we should take a big step forward next year. And again, it's not crazy to think a talented sophomore with some experience could step in and be good enough to get us there.
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