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Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:51 am to heartbreakTiger
Orgeron is responsible for making the decisions with recruiting last year and missing on the RB that went to FSU. And not getting Etienne. Did he learn a lot about recruiting too? How is this year's class looking?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:57 am to lsutiger2
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Im kinda excited about next year.
Good for you. Is it me or does it seem as a thread just like this is posted everday
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:18 am to lsutiger2
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You know people dont talk about this a lot with Coach O but he is a fairly young coach when it comes to head coaching experience. He had his one stint at Ole Miss which of course everybody knows but that was only 3 years.3 years as a head coach is not a lot of experience. You could argue being a head coach at an elite program like LSU is completely different than like a program Ole Miss. Throw in the fact interim coach is also not the same as head coach . Coach O met some adversity this year, adapted, and has GROWN as a coach.
This place still amazes me, after almost ten yrs of membership. fricking WOW
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:27 am to BigWalt
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What you smoking Baw? You actually think next year with a new QB, and newly acquired depth on both lines of scrimmage, and no experience at running backs we got us a team ready to go to Atlanta? You think all we missing is a coach not named Orgeron, and now we got a championship team?
2019 looks to be our year, as long as Orgeron continues to fill the needs of this team left empty by Miles
Here come the excuses already.
In 2019 the excuse will be that Canada's gone and we need another year to install the new offense.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:28 am to danfraz
And the O sycophants criticize some of us for saying that Ponamsky pays posters on here. shite like the OP is not heartfelt analysis. It’s fricking O hagiography.
They’ll be submitting fricking supposed O miracles to the pope soon.
They’ll be submitting fricking supposed O miracles to the pope soon.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:28 am to Mo Jeaux
Still running your retarded pie hole, eh?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:29 am to danfraz
yall are not getting it. Alleva didnt hire O because he knew or wanted him to learn on the job. He hired O because of his potential of being a very good head football coach. I am starting to see it. Finding the next great coach is not a perfect science. Ask yourself this. How many great coaches are out there? Compared to the standard you have LSU at?
And to people saying he shouldn't be learning at his age are incorrect. Its about EXPERIENCE. Youre learning new things everyday in life with new experiences. Dont care if you're 18 or 50. If 18 year old has done something the 50 year old hasnt, most likely the 18 year old will be better at it because he has experienced it.
And to people saying he shouldn't be learning at his age are incorrect. Its about EXPERIENCE. Youre learning new things everyday in life with new experiences. Dont care if you're 18 or 50. If 18 year old has done something the 50 year old hasnt, most likely the 18 year old will be better at it because he has experienced it.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:34 am to lsu2006
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Now is the time to win the west.
Agreed. We comin.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:38 am to LSU Patrick
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LSU Patrick
I bet I used big words that you had to look up, huh?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:38 am to lsutiger2
Coach O's big test is next season. Offense getting an overhaul, schedule is going to be ridiculous. If he goes 9-3 again, it would be considered an improvement, in all honesty.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:38 am to danfraz
Just spit balling here, but for $3-4 million/yr do you think we might have considered a full grown HC?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:40 am to lsutiger2
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yall are not getting it. Alleva didnt hire O because he knew or wanted him to learn on the job. He hired O because of his potential of being a very good head football coach. I am starting to see it. Finding the next great coach is not a perfect science. Ask yourself this. How many great coaches are out there?
So why wouldn't he start with a hire that at least had a winning career record?
What about Orgeron screams "next great head coach?"
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:43 am to Mo Jeaux
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I bet I used big words that you had to look up, huh?
We are all so thoroughly impressed with your vocabulary.
I guess there are only so many ways for you to post the same crap over and over. Once you have worn out your thesaurus, you can just go back to saying that O is terrible and you will never support him. We will continue to laugh at you just the same.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:47 am to LSU Patrick
I’m impressed you know the word “vocabulary “ to be honest. I bet you do laugh at me.
You strike me as one of those not too smart southerners who laughs at “book learnin”. That’s why you’re such an O sycophant. Nothing about your support of him is reasonable. It’s just that it givs you a chance to have a mastabotory session to stroke your good ole boy credentials.
You strike me as one of those not too smart southerners who laughs at “book learnin”. That’s why you’re such an O sycophant. Nothing about your support of him is reasonable. It’s just that it givs you a chance to have a mastabotory session to stroke your good ole boy credentials.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:50 am to lsutiger2
We'll see, but, again, the so-called process used to hire resulted in a position coach becoming the HC. This does not inspire confidence by any means. If Austin Thomas leaves that is probably another gaffe by Alleva. Process is important. Why do you think Saban has been such a success. Same with Belichick.
It comes down to having a vision and focusing on it and doing what it takes to make it happen. This is not LSU's philosophy from what I can tell.
It comes down to having a vision and focusing on it and doing what it takes to make it happen. This is not LSU's philosophy from what I can tell.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:53 am to Mo Jeaux
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givs
I'm going to have to look this one up.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:54 am to deftones
quote:Texas wasn't in good shape when Herman took over. This year was meh, so next year Herman needs to make real progress. But you have to look deeper than just wins and losses.
This bag of shite impressed you by playing in the Texas Bowl against Mizzou?
Maryland and Texas Tech were bad losses, and TCU beat them handily, but they played other good teams close:
Lost to USC in OT on the road.
Lost to Oklahoma by 5.
Lost to Okla State by 3.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda --- but Texas was better than their record indicates.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:59 am to lsutiger2
Coach Orgeron has been given an incredible opportunity. He has 2 more years to show progressive improvement in the quality of the product that he fields.
Absent that, it's a business decision, unclouded by emotion or notions of loyalty.
If a quality hire is available and accessible at the end of year 3 and we have only managed to muddle through under Orgeron, then he is gone.
If a viable alternative does not present, then you extend with a nominal buyout until things change, one way or the other.
The standard for progressive improvement, going forward, in my view, must be winning the west and earning a trip to Atlanta. Period.
Orgeron, like the rest of his peers, is forever on the clock. Just the nature of the beast. People need to stop clinging to him, or any other person we hire.
They don't matter: LSU does.
Absent that, it's a business decision, unclouded by emotion or notions of loyalty.
If a quality hire is available and accessible at the end of year 3 and we have only managed to muddle through under Orgeron, then he is gone.
If a viable alternative does not present, then you extend with a nominal buyout until things change, one way or the other.
The standard for progressive improvement, going forward, in my view, must be winning the west and earning a trip to Atlanta. Period.
Orgeron, like the rest of his peers, is forever on the clock. Just the nature of the beast. People need to stop clinging to him, or any other person we hire.
They don't matter: LSU does.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:01 am to atltiger6487
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Texas wasn't in good shape when Herman took over
You must not have heard. Les Miles left LSU in worse shape than Hitler left the Germans. It was a miracle LSU won 9 games against the gauntlet of a schedule and it will take Corch Eaux 3 years to turn it around. LSU will be back in 2021!!
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