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Posted on 12/1/20 at 1:41 pm to TrueTigerTale
He broke it to shreds after one great season
Posted on 12/1/20 at 1:44 pm to Geauxldilocks
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I prefer he lets others call the shots based on history.
What an indictment that is
Posted on 12/1/20 at 1:45 pm to TrueTigerTale
quote:He has also had several bad misses on the recruiting side. That 2018 class is 100% on him.
He implies that poor play is not hurting recruiting, that’s it’s going well. Coach O had several misses before he solved it the first time only because he had E’s input on Brady.
And FWIW the 2019 class has been iffy at best so far.
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 12/1/20 at 1:49 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Coach O seems certain that he not only can but will fix whatever is wrong with his LSU Tiger team.
bullshite. If he knew what was wrong, he wouldn't have let it get this bad or waited until the last three weeks of the season.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:08 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Well he did fix and build a championship team, the best ever, so I can buy this. He has this offseason to work it out
It’s an uphill climb as he didn’t “fix” a team like this. He had a good team and made them great.
Having said that, I think he can make the changes but it’s not an off-season fix, imo.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:18 pm to HammerheadLincoln
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A head coach shouldn't need "advice" on every major decision
A good Chief Executive will always ask for input from people he/she trusts. They will then weigh the opinions/advice offered and make a decision. It is not a weakness to seek advice; It is a strength.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:21 pm to PUB
Miles had rotted the program to shite. O fixed that in a few years and built a championship team.
Now he spent the offseason ruining what he built but he did build a real winner
Now he spent the offseason ruining what he built but he did build a real winner
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:26 pm to TrueTigerTale
Why doesn’t Dabo or Saban have to fix their program? Hint maybe bc they stay on top of it and hire good coaches and hold players and coaches accountable.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:32 pm to TrueTigerTale
How LONG has he known "we have to fix it"?
And why hasn't it already been fixed?
How long should it take?
Why does he keep having to "fix" things broken during his watch?
And why hasn't it already been fixed?
How long should it take?
Why does he keep having to "fix" things broken during his watch?
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:34 pm to TrueTigerTale
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he solved it the first time only because he had E’s input on Brady
Wrong answer,
He solved it before because he landed Tracy, Burrow and Brady. Without them O would not be coaching this season because ‘18 and ‘19 would have been much different.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:37 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Miles had rotted the program to shite.
This is dramatic. It was time for Miles to go, but he never had a losing season. The program dropped from championship contenders to just “good”. What we are seeing this year isn’t even good.
Orgeron has to get the ship righted next season or he might not get another chance.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 2:47 pm to TrueTigerTale
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“I know we have to fix it. I’ve done it before, I’ll do it again
Yadayadayada.
Enough talking and B/S'ing every week. O is the head coach. Fix it!
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:00 pm to tigerborderjumper
Coach O coasted after the title, Saban doesn’t coast he’s relentless.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:19 pm to HammerheadLincoln
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Eventually he is going to have to figure it out on his own. A head coach shouldn't need "advice" on every major decision.
He doesn't know how to figure it out. Orgeron doesn't have a Coordinator's skill set. There was a reason USC passed on Orgeron after his stint as interim. He's a rah-rah players guy, more suited to a Recruiting Coordinator.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:24 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Coach O seems certain that he not only can but will fix whatever is wrong with his LSU Tiger team.
I have no doubt he will, but that's not the problem. You have to put systems into place and it's obvious that's not where we are.
At 4 years, he's had time to develop a system instead of constantly plugging holes.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I think There was an honest attempt to keep the offensice system going. You hope E can take over now that he has Brady’s playbook and Linehan can fill in the cracks.
I don’t think that has happened at all, but I at least understand the want to keep the train going.
But if knows he needs to fix it that’s important. Idk what’s going on but we need someone who knows what they’re doing coaching a college offense.
I don’t think that has happened at all, but I at least understand the want to keep the train going.
But if knows he needs to fix it that’s important. Idk what’s going on but we need someone who knows what they’re doing coaching a college offense.
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:49 pm to Geauxldilocks
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He tried it on his own by his own admission at Ole Miss. His best decision yet (Brady) came on recommendation of E. He went on his own with Pellini. I prefer he lets others call the shots based on history.
You sure? O and Bo have never worked together before, so this wasn’t a BBQ buddy situation. Supposedly Pete Carrol, who O obviously has a lot of respect for, recommended him.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:51 pm to Legion of Doom
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I think it would be difficult to eat Bo or E or Linehan’s contracts at this time.
There are no contracts that have to be eaten. Bo, E, and Linehan are all excellent coaches who get along great. Ensminger will retire when he's ready. He's not a guy who will hang on when he's no longer putting in the work. He is a true LSU Tiger, and he'll do nothing to hurt the program.
Bo and Linehan will both be here next year. Bo is an excellent defensive coordinator. I don't know much about Linehan, but if they need to buy him out it's not that big a deal.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 4:00 pm to SammyTiger
There was an honest attempt to keep the offense going that’s true. But it’s been woeful for multiple reasons. Why are our two experienced linemen playing so poorly? And no leadership on offense. Seems like a lot to address.
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