re: I just have an alarming feeling the SEC will eliminate us for not playin 8 games

Posted by lsupride87

Member since Dec 2007

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:12 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger

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It's in the rules. So yeah, technically the SEC has said this.

And 8 games must be played is also in the rules....

Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger

Louisiana

Member since Mar 2008

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:13 pm to lsupride87

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And 8 games must be played is also in the rules....

Exactly. So some clarification is needed, huh?

Posted by atltiger6487

Member since May 2011

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:13 pm to sicboy

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7-1 = higher winning percentage, so that trumps in the tie-breaker.

but there's no "tie" because teams haven't played the same number of games. Therefore, the tiebreaker doesn't kick in.

100% chance that LSU and UF will be forced to play, if either one is still in the mix. The SEC won't allow a team to win their division without playing their full SEC schedule.

Just no way that will happen.

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Posted by lsupride87

Member since Dec 2007

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:13 pm to sicboy

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LINK

That is Scott Rabalais. I know what the rules say. The rules also say 8 games "shall" be played.

Posted by shel311

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Member since Aug 2004

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:13 pm to atltiger6487

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I'd bet every penny I owe and even my children's lives that the SEC won't allow a team to go to Atlanta if they haven't played all their conference games

That seems highly irresponsible and reckless.

Posted by lsupride87

Member since Dec 2007

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:14 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger

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Exactly. So some clarification is needed, huh?

Yes

Posted by clamdip

Rocky Mountain High

Member since Sep 2004

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:14 pm to matsuflex

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Beat the shite out of everybody and run up the score as much as possible. If no SEC championship then so be it. It will still be a fun year and the SEC will know who the best team was.

In this scenario, I would approve of going Ole Missish and hanging an SEC champs banner.

Posted by sicboy

Because Awesome

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87

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The rules also say 8 games "shall" be played.

And if it's not a possibility..........we don't get in.

IF we run the table.

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Posted by lsupride87

Member since Dec 2007

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:17 pm to sicboy

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And if it's not a possibility

The SEC rules dont say anything about if its not a possibility. They simply say 8 games shall be played.

So the SEC either has to announce the game is being played, or announce another way to determine the champion. Simply sitting and doing nothing will be a contradiction to the rules

Posted by atltiger6487

Member since May 2011

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:19 pm to shel311

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That seems highly irresponsible and reckless.

Relax, Francis, I was exaggerating to make a point.

Posted by shel311

McKinney, Texas

Member since Aug 2004

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:30 pm to atltiger6487

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Relax, Francis, I was exaggerating to make a point

So you wouldn't bet your children's lives?

Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't sure, thought maybe you actually would.

Appreciate it!!!

Posted by BilJ

Member since Sep 2003

158773 posts

Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:31 pm to Tiger Nation 84

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bet we get screwed if we win out. Either way, we dont go to the SECCG without playing florida, I just dont see it uner any scenerio

then we'll take UF down with us....ANARCHY ANARCHY

Posted by I-59 Tiger

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Member since Sep 2003

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:33 pm to lsupride87

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They've already said 7-1 makes it over 6-1They actually came out and said that? Link?

Ask the 1972 Auburn Tigers who was SEC Champ. Even though they beat Alabama, the Tide played one more game.

Posted by shel311

McKinney, Texas

Member since Aug 2004

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:35 pm to lsupride87

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The SEC rules dont say anything about if its not a possibility

According to the page 1 Advocate link, they do:

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Per SEC rules, if teams don’t play the same number of games, the team with the higher win percentage goes to the championship game

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or announce another way to determine the champion

Doesn't that quote in the rules(assuming it's there, based on the Advocate link) tell us everything we need to know?

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Posted by caliegeaux

Member since Aug 2004

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:47 pm to sicboy

From SEC Bylaw 30.22.1.3:

The Conference champion will be determined by a game between the two division champions. The team in each division with the highest percentage of wins during all regular-season conference competition will be declared division champion.

Posted by iamandykeim

Baton Rouge

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:49 pm to Tiger Nation 84

I think they'd move the championship and have us play florida if that happened

Posted by DrEdgeLSU

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Dec 2006

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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:51 pm to shel311

Here's the SEC constitution and bylaws for 2016-2017.

LINK

I can't find a single reference to a requirement that the teams play an equal number of games, etc. I go back to my previous point -- all tiebreaker rules are irrelevant if there is not a tie.

So where is the by-law or rule that states the division winner is selected based on winning percentage?

Posted by lsupride87

Member since Dec 2007

95830 posts

Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:53 pm to shel311

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Per SEC rules, if teams don’t play the same number of games, the team with the higher win percentage goes to the championship game

This is nowhere in the actual rules. The Advocate, which is shite, took 1+1 and made it equal 4

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