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re: I hope we adjust the line up a little today

Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:58 am to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:58 am to
If the rest of the lineup is hitting the way they are, it's absolutely worth it.

This debate only began during the times when we weren't getting production from 3rd, 2nd, or C.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84986 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:10 pm to
Which was my original point. This is the absolute worst time to be sacrificing defense.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:11 pm to
Which is why Hughes should switch to a 12 inch bat. We need his defense but 12 inches is optimal for bat speed
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25498 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:52 pm to
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It should be clear enough that Hughes is a better defender simply given the fact that he was trusted to play shortstop for an entire season and Reid has about 4 innings there over the course of his career.



And it was quite obvious watching Hughes play SS that he can't make the plays that we have been seeing from our previous shortstops in Bregman and Kramer, albeit those are some huge shoes to fill, but this is LSU.

For the argument that Hal gets to balls Reid doesnt at 3rd is just absurd. it's 3rd base, not shortstop. playing 3rd is more about having a quick initial reaction and fielding balls cleanly. And yes, Hal is better than Reid at that, but he's not getting to balls Reid isn't. That doesn't happen at 3rd base too often. Hal is without a doubt a better 3rd baseman than Reid, but he's not all worldly.

You can say for every ball Hal may get that Reid wouldn't have, Reid may have driven in a run or got on base instead of grounding out to shortstop and ending an inning and/or leaving runners on base at a critical moment in the game.
Hal can't even make a productive out much less a productive at bat. He either hits a weak ground ball to short, or flys out in the infield.
He batted 5 times last night, 0-5, only saw 14 pitches.
Beloso and Reid saw 18 and 19 pitches, in 1 less at bat each.
Neither got a hit in the game yet they had 3 rbis and 3 runs between them.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:55 pm to
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We will need all the runs we can get today.

We will need all the defense we can get today. Leave Hal at third. He is taking away base hits over there, and yesterday he made good contact twice, but just had bad luck.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:59 pm to
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Reid wasn’t exactly a slouch at third base when he has played there.

Not the point. Reid has a good glove. The problem with Reid is athleticism. His range is less than Hal’s. Additionally, Hal has a better glove. You would also be replacing Hal in the lineup with Gio, who has been very poor once there was a book on him.

I trust the coaches. If they bench Hal they’ve got a good reason, just like if they keep him in there.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:04 pm to
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I just don’t understand how anyone can justify keeping him in the lineup.

You can disagree without being an idiot. However, saying “I can’t see how anyone...” when the head coach and most of the knowledgeable fans on the rant say otherwise is borderline.

This is the time of year when defense and pitching will assert themselves. Hal on the bench during this regional without any great pitching staffs could make sense. Hal in the lineup in Omaha is a must.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Btw, this is a message board right? A place to share your thoughts?

That’s what the people who disagree with you are doing - sharing their thoughts.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:16 pm to
I agree with OP.

That lineup has ZERO holes. There is something to be said about constant pressure. No easy outs throughout a line up.

Hughes is an easy out, and every pitcher knows it. No one has presented any case for why Hughes is so much more valuable at 3B. I'm not interested in the eye test. If there is a stat out there that supports that theory I would like to see it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:17 pm to
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Good athletes have the ability to make these types of changes

Hal Hughes is a great athlete.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Hell he will probably start today and drop a bomb and go 3-4 with a few good plays in the field. Then I’ll have to come here and eat shite again.

No you won’t. That’s hindsight. You have every reason to expect 1 for 5 with three strikeouts. But if he saves the game with his glove...
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:24 pm to
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Sooner or later you’re gonna need to hit with all 9 instead of 8. Not gonna score 17 runs from here on out

This is just plain false, and it’s the reason for the disagreement on this. National championship teams usually sacrifice offense for defense at one of catcher, shortstop, third, center.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Also, without looking it up I’m not sure what other options we had then Stevenson in the outfield. I know we have Reid who can do just as good a job at 3rd.

Are you intentionally lying, or do you really believe that? Reid is inferior to Hal at third. Beloso is inferior to Reid at first. You would weaken our defense at two positions just to replace Hughes’ bat with Gio’s? Remember that we can probably expect Gio to be about a .200 hitter based on what he’s done lately and the increasing arm talent we will be seeing as we move forward.
Posted by Traceg03
LA
Member since Jun 2018
342 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:29 pm to
I know what y’all are saying but sometimes players get comfortable where they are in the lineup and swapping them all up might hurt them.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:49 pm to
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It’s amazing that people can watch a team absolutely explode, score the most runs all season and then call for a lineup change barely 12 hours later ?

yeah 10 hits is quite the explosion right? Just because they walked people and kicked the ball around all night doesnt mean our lineup is where it needs to be to make a run. Hughes OBP os fricking around .270. Some seasons LSU may have one starter that even hits at that low of a clip.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84986 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:06 pm to
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