re: I have watched LSU basketball since pistol Pete

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As usual on here, people overreacted

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No shite!

We beat two nothing teams and the guy gets the greatest tag. I like everything about the guy, but can we watch a few games against teams that don't stink before we start with the best in LSU history.

Let me rephrase. I think he will be the best coach . Not because they won their first two games. It’s the whole picture. He revamped the team in 1st year. His 1st recruiting class is outstanding and he coaches and speaks like he knows what he is doing. It will surprise me if he is not a success .

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Dale Brown ..... not an X and O coach.

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But he invented "The Freak" defense, and it even worked sometimes. Brown made LSU basketball fun to watch; Wade could do that and more.

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This is always such a stupid argument. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall the NCAA separating a coach's wins by "motivator" vs. wins by "great tacticians". Regardless of Dale's strengths or weakness, he won. A lot. At a place that had no real significant history of winning prior to his arrival.

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nobody is taking anything away from Dale's success. He had a ton of it here, and put LSU basketball on the map.

Coaching has many aspects: recruiting, player development, strategy, tactics, movitation, psychology, etc.

No doubt Dale was a very successful coach (except at the end). But there's little doubt that he wasn't a good tactician or x-and-o coach. We all knew it back in the 70s.

But that doesn't mean he was a bad coach. The rest of the stuff he did very well, and it overcame his x/o deficiencies.

Hell, no coach is perfect.

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He said coach not motivator. Dale Brown was a shitty x/o guy. If you were around when Brown pissed away some of the talent he had you'd understand.

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you are a complete moron and obviously can not read....
His strength were not Xs and Os, but "shitty" is an uneducated statement... my guess is that you never saw any of his teams play.

look up LSU basketball 1986 vs Memphis, probably best game in LSU's history

Dale brought more success to LSU than any other Basketball coach... educate yourself.

Here it is:

He is the only SEC coach to have ever appeared in 15 straight national tournaments and only 11 coaches in NCAA history have made more consecutive NCAA appearances (10).

Only the legendary Adolph Rupp of Kentucky has won more games in SEC history.

Brown and Rupp are the only SEC coaches that had 17 consecutive non-losing seasons. Only 4 coaches in the SEC have won more conference championships, Adolph Rupp, Joe Hall, Tubby Smith, and Billy Donovan.

Only seven coaches in the SEC have led their teams to two Final Fours or more while coaching SEC teams. They are Dale Brown, John Calipari, Billy Donovan, Joe B. Hall, Rick Pitino, Nolan Richardson, and Adolph Rupp.
On nine occasions Brown was selected as the SEC Coach of the Year or Runner-Up. He was twice chosen as the National Coach of the Year. In a 10-year span from 1977–1986, LSU is the only school to finish in the first division of the SEC. He has the distinction of beating Kentucky more than any coach in the nation. 110 of 160 of his players received their college degrees. He is a member of the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame and Basketball Coaches Hall of Fame. In 2004, he was inducted as an SEC Living Legend. In 2010, the Tiger Rag, the Bible of LSU sports, ranked Brown in the top 5 of the most influential people in LSU athletics history.
In 1982, Brown coached the West team in the College All-Star game, defeating the Bob Knight-coached East team, 102-68. In 1990, he coached the South team in the National Olympic Festival, winning the gold medal over the Lon Kruger-coached North team, 95-94.

During Brown's era basketball rose to a level that no one could have ever possibly imagined. LSU holds the record for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th largest paid attendance for a regular season game in college basketball history.
1-20-90 Superdome - 68,112 - LSU 87 Notre Dame 64
1-28-89 Superdome - 66,144 - LSU 82 Georgetown 80
1-03-92 Superdome - 61,304 - LSU 84 Texas 83
Legendary coach John Wooden and Billy Packer, CBS television analyst, have paid Coach Brown wonderful tributes about his career at LSU.

Wooden said, "Dale did an outstanding job in raising the level of LSU basketball to the status of equality to anyone in the country. Also, if heads of states throughout this troubled world of ours had real concern and consideration for others as Dale Brown, I doubt if our racial, religious, and political problems would be a major issue

Don’t compare JJ to WW

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Dale was a good motivator and recruiter not a good x and o coach. Which is why he never won a national championship.

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I agree with you, but he was not as bad as some would have you believe.

I believe he sometimes played scared (to not lose) at the end of games and actually cost him games.

4 Corners was great, but sometimes implemented too early.

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you are a complete moron and obviously can not read....
His strength were not Xs and Os, but "shitty" is an uneducated statement... my guess is that you never saw any of his teams play.

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My guess is your last name is Brown. I grew up in the early 80's and saw too many games to count. Did he have success with the program, yes. One thing you or anyone else will convince me is that Brown is an x and o guy. He could motivate with the best of them and his players played hard for him. He was able to get average players to play above their level. One of the biggest travesties is that span not getting past the 2nd round in the late 80's early 90's. It was a joke and if you think otherwise you are a fricking moron.

Look...I'm super pumped about Coach Wade. Early prognosis is it is an absolute homerun hire. And I'm definitely old enough to remember the DB era. But my point remains this:

Coach Will Wade's accomplishments at LSU are as follows:

2-0
Reinvigorated the basketball program


Coach Dale Browns accomplishments at LSU are all this shite...

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He is the only SEC coach to have ever appeared in 15 straight national tournaments and only 11 coaches in NCAA history have made more consecutive NCAA appearances (10).

Only the legendary Adolph Rupp of Kentucky has won more games in SEC history.

Brown and Rupp are the only SEC coaches that had 17 consecutive non-losing seasons. Only 4 coaches in the SEC have won more conference championships, Adolph Rupp, Joe Hall, Tubby Smith, and Billy Donovan.

Only seven coaches in the SEC have led their teams to two Final Fours or more while coaching SEC teams. They are Dale Brown, John Calipari, Billy Donovan, Joe B. Hall, Rick Pitino, Nolan Richardson, and Adolph Rupp.
On nine occasions Brown was selected as the SEC Coach of the Year or Runner-Up. He was twice chosen as the National Coach of the Year. In a 10-year span from 1977–1986, LSU is the only school to finish in the first division of the SEC. He has the distinction of beating Kentucky more than any coach in the nation. 110 of 160 of his players received their college degrees. He is a member of the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame and Basketball Coaches Hall of Fame. In 2004, he was inducted as an SEC Living Legend. In 2010, the Tiger Rag, the Bible of LSU sports, ranked Brown in the top 5 of the most influential people in LSU athletics history.
In 1982, Brown coached the West team in the College All-Star game, defeating the Bob Knight-coached East team, 102-68. In 1990, he coached the South team in the National Olympic Festival, winning the gold medal over the Lon Kruger-coached North team, 95-94.

During Brown's era basketball rose to a level that no one could have ever possibly imagined. LSU holds the record for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th largest paid attendance for a regular season game in college basketball history.
1-20-90 Superdome - 68,112 - LSU 87 Notre Dame 64
1-28-89 Superdome - 66,144 - LSU 82 Georgetown 80
1-03-92 Superdome - 61,304 - LSU 84 Texas 83
Legendary coach John Wooden and Billy Packer, CBS television analyst, have paid Coach Brown wonderful tributes about his career at LSU.

Wooden said, "Dale did an outstanding job in raising the level of LSU basketball to the status of equality to anyone in the country. Also, if heads of states throughout this troubled world of ours had real concern and consideration for others as Dale Brown, I doubt if our racial, religious, and political problems would be a major issue

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All I'm saying is it's a tad bit early to deem CWW "the greatest coach evah!!!"

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Dale brought more success to LSU than any other Basketball coach... educate yourself.

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Everyone knows that and we give Dale full credit.

His sweet spot was geting good players to overahcieve, through motivation, not tactics. And he was very good at it.

But he didn't do as well with elite talent. He had two of the best players in college history (Shaq and Chris Jackson), along with another elite stud (Stanley Roberts) and very good role players (Vernel Singleton, Maurice Williamson, etc) and only managed to finish third in then SEC, lost in the first round of the conference tourney, and lost in the second round of the NCAA.

Dale was what he was. And he was NOT a master tactician.