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re: I guess it’s MM”s fault?

Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1361 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:30 pm to
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That’s a deflection and you’re also making false statements about offenses. If you were involved with basketball for 30 years like you claim you should know what iso ball is and isn’t.


Not making false statements about anything. I asked a question that has yet to be answered. Is McMahons offense his first year at LSU the same as it was at Murray State??
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59429 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:33 pm to
Yea you did or you just don’t know what iso basketball is. And yes we run the same shite, just watch the first few minutes of his last game at Murray St. vs St. Pete’s.

LINK
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1361 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:21 pm to
Iso basketball is definitely not a motion “swing” offense.

Also, we didn’t run a lot of the sets they ran at Murray State. We didn’t have the personnel. Transfers didn’t pan out, definitely on MM. Our best players Williams and Fountain, also big men. MM likes to run 3 guards and 2 forwards. Because we were not guard heavy and couldn’t run a 4 out offense, we had to fit it around what we had. Which is also why Phillips didn’t fit in to the offense with KJ there. The whole offense had to be changed to fit what we had. Once we can get some shooters, we will be ok.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71471 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:45 pm to
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What about all the good shots we miss, layups we miss? I have some doubt about MM, but I have 10% certainty we dont have players that can do the things needed to win competitive games.


We are dead last in the SEC

Solid observation

MM is bad, dude.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59429 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:55 pm to
You keep deflecting. You’re the one who said we ran ISO ball under the last coach which is completely false. And I just provided visual evidence that we’re running the same thing he ran last year at Murray State yet you’re still denying it with an explanation contradictory to facts. We played 3 guards almost the entire season, 6,115 of 6,600 total minutes or 93.7% of the time.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42845 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:02 pm to
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Madking
How deep into this conversion should I be?

I kind have checked out with this:

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I hate basketball and don’t watch

Well clearly your opinion carries significant weight.

it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk and remove all doubt.
Poignant from Alt.

Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6557 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:03 pm to
I’d reserve judgment until next year
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59429 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:11 pm to
No more than a page back. Typical Wade hater just making things up. Provided visual evidence for him, gave stats and facts but it’s the same old contrived narrative > reality with these types.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 10:13 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42845 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:24 pm to
Thanks MK.

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but the bs y’all give him makes me embarrassed to be an LSU Basketball fan
Have you watched this season?

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95% of the players we got have little to no experience at this level.
That's nonsense and just made up.
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It was built on potential
I could more than I am literally
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with his 1 on 1 isolation everyone standing around offense would’ve generated more wins with the same players??? You’re high.


OMG. You have no idea what you're talking about. Seems normal.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
11998 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:47 am to
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It's not like it was in the pre transfer portal days where a new coach generally inherited a bad roster and his only means of quick improvement was a few JUCO players or HS freshman. So if this was a "bad" roster, the blame for it logically falls at the feet of the person who built the roster...McMahon.


Really no excuse to have a record this bad in this day and age with the transfer portal at LSU. Wade built up this program the last few years and he just bulldozed it. Just like you said, he didn’t take over a crap roster that’s been losing for years. He had a blank slate, and this is what he came up with? He’s 100% to blame.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45717 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:01 am to
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I do actually. Played and coached over 30 years.


That doesnt mean you know jack shite
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36626 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:37 am to
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Really no excuse to have a record this bad in this day and age with the transfer portal at LSU. Wade built up this program the last few years and he just bulldozed it. Just like you said, he didn’t take over a crap roster that’s been losing for years. He had a blank slate, and this is what he came up with? He’s 100% to blame.

Wade took a blowtorch to the program getting caught in so many violations and leaving zero players, zero recruits, and an NOA for the next guy.

Wade took over a full roster with some talented players. Only brought in 5 guys and didn't have to spend months fielding a team. Really spent more time encouraging some guys to move on.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59429 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:25 am to
You just make shite up. Never seen someone fabricate so many delusions.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32110 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:30 am to
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Wade took over a full roster with some talented players. Only brought in 5 guys and didn't have to spend months fielding a team. Really spent more time encouraging some guys to move on


I’ll give it to you, you are dedicated to defending McMahon at all costs.

Wade took over a roster that had just gone 10-21 (2-16). A roster whose arse he personally kicked in the Bahamas.

Wade had Reath, a very average Epps, a (then) unpolished Mays, and that was pretty much it.

He brought in a game changer in Waters and got the absolute most out of a group that was so talented they we projected to finish last in the SEC.

But yep, it’s not McMahon’s fault he was horrible with a roster HE built. So either he’s a terrible major conf coach or a terrible major conf roster builder.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59429 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:36 am to
He doesn’t give a rip about McMahon. This is someone who for years claimed Wade was a terrible coach and when McMahon was hired then signed his recruits and transfers claimed he was going to show LSU fans what real coaching was. He was dead wrong of course and now looks like a fool so he’s not really making excuses for McMahon, he’s making them for himself and doubling down on stupid.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36626 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:43 am to
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Wade had Reath, a very average Epps, a (then) unpolished Mays, and that was pretty much it.
plus Sampson, Sims, etc. Which as much as you want to downplay it is far more than nothing.
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He brought in a game changer in Waters and got the absolute most out of a group that was so talented they we projected to finish last in the SEC.
Now you are starting to sound like a madking alter basing talent on predictions. Do you go by hs rankings too?
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But yep, it’s not McMahon’s fault he was horrible with a roster HE built. So either he’s a terrible major conf coach or a terrible major conf roster builder.
Or, it is difficult to field a team when you start with zero players, zero recruits, and an NOA. He did as well as any coach could under the circumstances, but obviously the team had flaws as a result.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59429 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:57 am to
Double standards and false statements. Your bread and butter.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16580 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 12:07 pm to
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What about all the good shots we miss, layups we miss? I have some doubt about MM, but I have 10% certainty we dont have players that can do the things needed to win competitive games.



I saw several times teams we were playing guys get in the lane on drives and do fundamental things like pivot, up and under, land on two feet and look and make a prudent decision.

Our guys don't seem to do any of that, they drive wildly off of one foot and fling balls that if lucky maybe touch the rim.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9803 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 12:15 pm to
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you think Will Wade with his 1 on 1 isolation everyone standing around offense would’ve generated more wins with the same players??? You’re high.

Claims to know basketball while simultaneously parroting the same stupid tropes as people that routinely demonstrate they don’t know basketball.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9803 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 12:21 pm to
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plus Sampson, Sims, etc. Which as much as you want to downplay it is far more than nothing.

You thought Darius days made a mistake returning to lsu for his senior year instead of transferring to a different school. Stop pretending you know anything about basketball.
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