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re: I cannot believe that Gary Danielson is campaigning

Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by RollTideRockStar
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:03 pm to

I dont think so.
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101732 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:03 pm to
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Gary and Verne have always hate Alabama


Wow.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2765 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:04 pm to
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Yes Mushmouth did start that chit in 2003 regarding USC. Watch the opening comments of that game.


You still haven't begged everyone for mercy from your error in your first post. But the Murfreesboro part explains it.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:13 pm to
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Yes Mushmouth did start that chit in 2003 regarding USC. Watch the opening comments of that game.


There were no rematches that year, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124298 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:17 pm to
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Split only if Bama wins the rematch. Both teams will have won 1 of the 2 games against each other.

No split if LSU wins the rematch. LSU will have won 2 of the 2 games against each other.
Yep.

. . . and Danielson is not the only one saying it.

quote:

Would You Be Cool If Alabama Beats An Unbeaten LSU In The BCS Championship?
by Pete Fiutak

LSU 9 – Alabama 6. Ball game.

This has nothing to do with Alabama, just like it had nothing to do with Florida in 1996. This is about the process, and a team shouldn’t get a do-over. And just like it wasn’t about Nebraska in 2001, a team shouldn’t be allowed to be named the best team in the country if you’re not the best team in your division, much less your conference.

If LSU beats Arkansas and Georgia, I don’t care what happens in the BCS championship since it’ll be irrelevant unless Oklahoma State gets in . . .

Again, LSU 9 – Alabama 6. Ball game.

If LSU is 13-0 and Alabama is No. 2 in the BCS standings, the Tigers should strut out of the Georgia Dome with a No. 1 finger in the air like Larry Bird – with the money ball still flying - walking off the court at the end of the 1988 all-star game three-point shootout. And then they shouldn’t even show up in New Orleans. There’s no need.

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By Matt Zemek

LSU beat Alabama this season.

Therefore, there cannot be a rematch in the BCS National Championship Game as a matter of pure principle. I will not recognize Alabama as the national champion should the Tide beat the Tigers in New Orleans on January 9, 2012.

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by Phil Harrison

Been there, done that. Didn’t we already have a prequel to this movie? If Alabama makes its way to New Orleans to play an undefeated LSU team -- it solves nothing, and proves nothing.

The Tigers have already rolled the Tide on the road, and a rematch, albeit in the state of Louisiana would be a win on neutral turf and not nearly as impressive, even if the score is higher (and please let it be).

What we would have is a tie on the season with no way to break the tie aside from awarding the team that won last as the victor.

Alabama had its shot . . . And that’s where its title aspirations should end.

So bring on a new challenger. There’s still Oklahoma State, Stanford, and Virginia Tech all with one loss. For that matter, Boise State and Houston are still waiting in the un-clipped BCS weeds. Bring on anybody--but just don’t bring on Alabama again.


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By Terry Johnson

No, I am not cool with Alabama being the national champion if they beat an undefeated LSU team in the BCS title game.

If you cannot win your own conference – or in this case your own division - you do not belong in the national championship game.

Even if we dismiss that simple – but effective - argument, Alabama should not win the BCS title over an LSU team that finished the regular season undefeated.

Should the Crimson Tide win a rematch on January 9th, the teams would have split the season series. Rather than just award the title to the team that won the most recent game – something college football has done (albeit erroneously) over the years – we should evaluate each team’s entire body of work.

Since both teams would each have only one loss, what factor would prove which team is better?

The answer is simple - strength of schedule.

A careful evaluation of each team will prove that LSU has the tougher schedule of the two. LSU has defeated six ranked teams so far, while Alabama has only beaten three. Should the Tigers go undefeated, they will pick up win number 7 (against Arkansas) and 8 (against Georgia in the SEC title game) against ranked opponents in the next two weeks.

Should Alabama still win the title even though LSU beat them during the regular season, and won twice the amount of games against ranked opponents?

Absolutely not – that would send the wrong message.



LINK

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124298 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:22 pm to
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Gary and Verne have always hated Alabama. Just another way to take a shot at us.
Sounds like there's a whole brigade lining up to do the same. Stanford or OSU may still be in this.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12318 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:25 pm to
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Alabama had its shot . . . And that’s where its title aspirations should end.


Thank goodness. Finally some common sense in this otherwise surreal thread.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:35 pm to
Either the intelligence level drops off on the boards as the day goes on or the effects of alcohol start setting in... I say it's both.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124298 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:36 pm to
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Thank goodness. Finally some common sense in this otherwise surreal thread.
Danielson said the same thing.
The OP just misquoted him.

Danielson's POV is interesting because he's previously demonstrated an ability to influence polls. If LSU wins Friday, Danielson will start a pitch against a rematch that could significantly influence voters. And he'll have 2 consecutive weeks to move those voters -- LSU-Arky & LSU-UGA.

Result? . . . . If OSU beats OU Dec 5th (big if), Bama may well get jumped.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:50 pm to
Gary Danielson is a complete idiot.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:55 pm to
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Danielson said the same thing. The OP just misquoted him. Danielson's POV is interesting because he's previously demonstrated an ability to influence polls. If LSU wins Friday, Danielson will start a pitch against a rematch that could significantly influence voters. And he'll have 2 consecutive weeks to move those voters -- LSU-Arky & LSU-UGA. Result? . . . . If OSU beats OU Dec 5th (big if), Bama may well get jumped.



This. I really believe, given the chance, the voters will not put BAMA back in the BCSNC game. IMO, they really need to have no other options to do that, and they will have other options.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22426 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:56 pm to
When are "you people" going to get it through your thick skulls that there is ONE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP???!!! Close does not count!!

The notion of a split championship gets traction because "you people" buy in to it. That is all.

Yours Truly,

Pete Carroll
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37780 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 6:59 pm to
It's funny that this thread turned into an interesting topic.

Thanks to NC Tigah.

Danielson is basically saying if LSU does not play in the BCSCG by some miracle, they deserve an AP #1. Completely logical.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:03 pm to
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Danielson's POV is interesting because he's previously demonstrated an ability to influence polls. If LSU wins Friday, Danielson will start a pitch against a rematch that could significantly influence voters. And he'll have 2 consecutive weeks to move those voters -- LSU-Arky & LSU-UGA.

Result? . . . . If OSU beats OU Dec 5th (big if), Bama may well get jumped.


He did it in 2006 at the end of the SEC Title game and he'll do it again. I love Danielson.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37780 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:08 pm to
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He did it in 2006 at the end of the SEC Title game and he'll do it again. I love Danielson.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:10 pm to
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Finescum's show


Worse event than ESPN, you couldn't pay me to listen his BS and his paid call ins.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
1840 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Would You Be Cool If Alabama Beats An Unbeaten LSU In The BCS Championship?
by Pete Fiutak

LSU 9 – Alabama 6. Ball game.

This has nothing to do with Alabama, just like it had nothing to do with Florida in 1996. This is about the process, and a team shouldn’t get a do-over. And just like it wasn’t about Nebraska in 2001, a team shouldn’t be allowed to be named the best team in the country if you’re not the best team in your division, much less your conference.

If LSU beats Arkansas and Georgia, I don’t care what happens in the BCS championship since it’ll be irrelevant unless Oklahoma State gets in . . .

Again, LSU 9 – Alabama 6. Ball game.

If LSU is 13-0 and Alabama is No. 2 in the BCS standings, the Tigers should strut out of the Georgia Dome with a No. 1 finger in the air like Larry Bird – with the money ball still flying - walking off the court at the end of the 1988 all-star game three-point shootout. And then they shouldn’t even show up in New Orleans. There’s no need.


This deserves it's own thread Tigah ! Everyone else agree ?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23323 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:15 pm to
Thank you Gary Danielson. This path to a championship is BRUTAL for LSU.

After playing two top-3 teams, we still have two top-3 teams left to play.
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:17 pm to
SO,


Did Florida give half back to Florida St. in '96?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124298 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:19 pm to
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He did it in 2006 at the end of the SEC Title game and he'll do it again. I love Danielson
Just listened to the interview. Danielson is also covering the Bama-Auburn game

That is a helluva lot of National TV time to carry an argument.

FWIW, here is the interview: LINK
Danielson's comments re: a split title if LSU enters the MNCCG undefeated come at the end @ ~11:30
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