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Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:09 am to Dw__reed
I cant find the link, but I believe I heard back in the spring that it would be two highest ranked teams in the CFP (not AP).
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:56 am to Dw__reed
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Who goes to the sec championship?
Whoever they want. There is no playing your way in anymore…
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:20 am to Basura Blanco
Right, it will be the two highest ranked teams. Irony of course, the team ranked 3rd gets the best deal of the bunch.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:26 am to paulb52
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If those three were tied to be fair to all three they would pick Alabama to play Georgia.
Where does that leave Texas, the SEC's new Prima Donna?

Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:27 am to alessic7
That’s debatable.
1 team goes to SEC CG to win a championship & earn a 1st round bye
3rd team gets a bye week & then a home game in 1st round of playoffs
Either one still gets a bye & has to win 3 more games to win a natty.
1 team goes to SEC CG to win a championship & earn a 1st round bye
3rd team gets a bye week & then a home game in 1st round of playoffs
Either one still gets a bye & has to win 3 more games to win a natty.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:29 am to Dw__reed
Should do conference strength of schedule as the tiebreaker in that case. Reward the team that played the harder schedule.
They'll probably take the easy way out and say highest two ranked according to the committee will go.
They'll probably take the easy way out and say highest two ranked according to the committee will go.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:48 am to Dw__reed
The SEC hasn’t actually announced the tiebreakers yet, which is a little crazy to be honest. But I would guess it’ll look something like:
1) Number of head-to-head wins among tied teams
2) Record against common SEC opponents
3) Record against the common SEC opponent(s) with best record
4) Conference record of SEC opponents
5) Coin flip
Using CFP ranking as a final tiebreaker instead of a coin flip kind of makes sense, but I don’t think the timing will work. The SEC championship is a week after the final regular season game, and I don’t think the CFP rankings come out until that Tuesday. So you would be waiting until Tuesday to find out who goes to the championship on Saturday.
I would also think they try to leave non-conference opponents out of the equation if at all possible, since that adds another whole layer of potential subjectivity.
1) Number of head-to-head wins among tied teams
2) Record against common SEC opponents
3) Record against the common SEC opponent(s) with best record
4) Conference record of SEC opponents
5) Coin flip
Using CFP ranking as a final tiebreaker instead of a coin flip kind of makes sense, but I don’t think the timing will work. The SEC championship is a week after the final regular season game, and I don’t think the CFP rankings come out until that Tuesday. So you would be waiting until Tuesday to find out who goes to the championship on Saturday.
I would also think they try to leave non-conference opponents out of the equation if at all possible, since that adds another whole layer of potential subjectivity.
This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:07 pm to jdaute2
Seems it would be better to play the SECCG and win it and earn a bye than to have to play a Rd of 16 game at the very end of exams. I's rather win the SEC.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:14 pm to JimTiger72
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This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:24 pm to GeorgeWest
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Seems it would be better to play the SECCG and win it and earn a bye than to have to play a Rd of 16 game at the very end of exams. I's rather win the SEC.
Agreed. By giving conference champs a first round bye, they've made those championship games actually mean something again.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:33 pm to Dw__reed
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However unlikely it may seem, what happens if say LSU, Tennessee, and Texas all go undefeated or lose one a piece.
Which team(s) didn't play Vanderbilt?
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:59 pm to Dw__reed
Looks like you read my posts on this
, because I've pointed it out too.
From what little I've seen, there's no hard-and-fast tiebreakers, which seem to leave it up to human/committee discussion. In other words, same way the playoff committee solved the Florida State/Texas/Alabama issue.
My guess is they will choose the most popular/profitable combination of teams, and then reverse-engineer some "tiebreakers" that allow it. Just like the playoff committee did.
Texas, Tennessee and LSU all undefeated... Texas gets into the championship. We can safely say that would be one of the teams, because it would bring more attention and viewers. Now, with all teams being 12-0, you probably can use strength of schedule; Texas will play Michigan OOC. That gives Texas a bump, and if so that puts LSU in as the other team (LSU plays USC and UCLA). I don't think Tennessee has an OOC schedule that compares, so you can eliminate the Vols that way.
What happens afterwards- I would expect the winner in Atlanta to be playoff #1 seed, as a 13-0 SEC team.
I would expect the team that didn't go to Atlanta would be the #5 seed, the highest non-conference champ. Tennessee in this scenario.
If you then project the seed bracket, that means Tennessee would get a home game against the #12 seed, say Liberty, or Boise etc. And get a comfortable home win. Then play #4 at a neutral site, I would suggest that will be Utah (Big 12 winner), which an undefeated SEC team would be favored to beat.
Then a semifinal matchup against #1, the SEC champ (LSU or Texas). So in theory, that is also the 'unofficial' 2nd SEC championship.
Which is just really crazy, if you think about it:
1 team has to play an undefeated SEC opponent in Atlanta, to get a trophy and "seed". (2 teams, actually)
1 team goes 12-0, then gets a home playoff game against a G5 team, followed by a neutral site game against the weakest P4 champ.
They project to play each other to go to the championship.
Who is rewarded with the easiest path?

From what little I've seen, there's no hard-and-fast tiebreakers, which seem to leave it up to human/committee discussion. In other words, same way the playoff committee solved the Florida State/Texas/Alabama issue.

My guess is they will choose the most popular/profitable combination of teams, and then reverse-engineer some "tiebreakers" that allow it. Just like the playoff committee did.
Texas, Tennessee and LSU all undefeated... Texas gets into the championship. We can safely say that would be one of the teams, because it would bring more attention and viewers. Now, with all teams being 12-0, you probably can use strength of schedule; Texas will play Michigan OOC. That gives Texas a bump, and if so that puts LSU in as the other team (LSU plays USC and UCLA). I don't think Tennessee has an OOC schedule that compares, so you can eliminate the Vols that way.
What happens afterwards- I would expect the winner in Atlanta to be playoff #1 seed, as a 13-0 SEC team.
I would expect the team that didn't go to Atlanta would be the #5 seed, the highest non-conference champ. Tennessee in this scenario.
If you then project the seed bracket, that means Tennessee would get a home game against the #12 seed, say Liberty, or Boise etc. And get a comfortable home win. Then play #4 at a neutral site, I would suggest that will be Utah (Big 12 winner), which an undefeated SEC team would be favored to beat.
Then a semifinal matchup against #1, the SEC champ (LSU or Texas). So in theory, that is also the 'unofficial' 2nd SEC championship.
Which is just really crazy, if you think about it:
1 team has to play an undefeated SEC opponent in Atlanta, to get a trophy and "seed". (2 teams, actually)
1 team goes 12-0, then gets a home playoff game against a G5 team, followed by a neutral site game against the weakest P4 champ.
They project to play each other to go to the championship.
Who is rewarded with the easiest path?
Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:47 am to Scoob
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From what little I've seen, there's no hard-and-fast tiebreakers, which seem to leave it up to human/committee discussion. In other words, same way the playoff committee solved the Florida State/Texas/Alabama issue.
My guess is they will choose the most popular/profitable combination of teams, and then reverse-engineer some "tiebreakers" that allow it. Just like the playoff committee did.
This is ridiculous.

Greg Sankey has already said they are working to finalize the tiebreak procedure with the athletic directors before the start of the season.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:20 am to Pas Bon
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4) Paul Finebaum
This legit made me laugh out loud.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 11:59 am to Scoob
There's also the advantage of the SECCG loser as they will likely end up on the opposite side of the bracket from the champion (1-seed) and 3rd place SEC team (5-seed).
I also think that the SECCG's days are numbered. Google machine says the SEC is contacted with Mercedes-Benz stadium through 2031, but I wouldn't be surprised if they declined to extend after that.
I also think that the SECCG's days are numbered. Google machine says the SEC is contacted with Mercedes-Benz stadium through 2031, but I wouldn't be surprised if they declined to extend after that.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:34 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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I also think that the SECCG's days are numbered.
I disagree for two reasons.
1. Money. The SEC would be devaluing their TV contract by eliminating the SECCG.
2. Imagine having a 16-team league with no divisions and an 8-game (or even 9-game) season, and naming a conference champion without even playing a championship game. That would be pretty shitty. As bad as a 3-way tie would be for the top 2 spots, at least those teams still have to earn the actual conference title on the field.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:23 pm to JimTiger72
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That’s debatable. 1 team goes to SEC CG to win a championship & earn a 1st round bye 3rd team gets a bye week & then a home game in 1st round of playoffs Either one still gets a bye & has to win 3 more games to win a natty.
You can actually go a lot farther with the arguments, pro and con, such as
- as a 1/2 if you lose in the SEC-C, you can still make the playoffs.
- you play a team likely ranked #12 in the first round of the playoffs to advance to final 8 vs having to beat a likely top 6 opponent in the SEC-C
- as the five seed you’re paired with the 4th conference champ in the second round, who may not be as good as the at large team that finishes #8.
- playing sec-c week after season vs the longer break but playing 3 games rather than 2
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:40 pm to Dw__reed
So now the SEC championship has been trivialized as much as it has in baseball and basketball? How fun.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:51 am to Dw__reed
Thunderdome!! Three teams enter......one team leaves.
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