re: How much can LSU pay for a MBB coach?

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Your argument would be valid if Pope brought in a bunch of AA, 5* types but that’s not who’s on Kentuckys roster. It’s a bunch of mid major transfers not elite players from big programs.

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Bingo!

What you get in these threads are many people who like to make counterarguments...but don't actually follow basketball close enough to realize that often times their arguments are factually flawed.

Yes, from a history and program pedigree standpoint Kentucky stands heads and shoulders above LSU. But for this particular season UK's roster doesn't. This isn't a UK roster stacked with McDonald's All Americans and multiple projected lottery picks. It's a solid roster, but FAR from a "loaded" roster. It's not significantly better than LSU's.

And to be honest, Kentucky is probably a mid-tier SEC team this year. But there is a WORLD of difference between being a mid-tier SEC team in maybe the strongest year ever for the conference and being a team that isn't even competitive most nights...which is LSU. To put that in perspective, LSU has played 3 SEC games. They have not held a second half lead for ONE second in any of those games.

If LSU were competitive, but just getting beat late by the likes of Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, on the road then you could at least say "hey, those teams are just a bit better than us. But that is not what is happening.

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SW needs to swallow his pride and beg WW to come back.

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Ticket sales for LSU men’s basketball would be through the roof. Talk about people buying season tickets for LSU basketball. Even the games against Alcorn State would be sellouts. The Deaf Dome would be electric all the time.

It’s the only correct answer Woody.

rankings don't mean shite if they can't get it done on the court!!!!!

LSU has no dawgs!!! No future NBA talent and it's not even close!!!!

The rankings are skewed because of the transfer portal.

Stop with the "man this team is ultra talented we just need a new coach."

Bottom line is this team doesn't have the talent to compete in the upper portion of the SEC and the Coach ain't helping!!!!

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Stop with the "man this team is ultra talented we just need a new coach."

Bottom line is this team doesn't have the talent to compete in the upper portion of the SEC and the Coach ain't helping!!!!

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Is this team talented enough to make the NCAAT yes or no

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The rankings are skewed because of the transfer portal.

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This is just false... it was a top 25 class before the portal

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Arky can afford to pay Cal $7M,

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If this board is in sackcloth and ashes over a 0-3 start for 3 mil, imagine the melt over paying 7 mil for a 0,3 start.

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Even the games against Alcorn State would be sellouts.

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The games against Alcorn State would, in fact, not be sellouts.

LINK

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Portal is included in the new rankings

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Yes I know. But before the portal it was a top 25 class JUST BASED ON THE FRESHMEN. I believe it was in that 15-20 range.

LIKE I SAID:

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it was a top 25 class before the portal

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The portal obviously bumped it up higher but basiletiger is implying it was substandard before the portal boosted it up. That's just plain wrong.

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LSU has no dawgs!!! No future NBA talent and it's not even close!!!!

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Neither Auburn, nor Tennessee, nor Florida, nor even Houston have anyone projected as a lottery pick, let alone the first round. Yet all 4 are among the best teams in college basketball.

LSU has enough talent to at least compete on most nights in the SEC. Not necessarily win the league, but at least compete. That's not what is happening under McMahon. LSU has been mostly outclassed thus far in SEC play. Two of those games against team that will likely finish near the bottom of the league. LSU is still yet to hold a second half lead for even 1 second in SEC play.

I genuinely don't know where this "McMahon is a great X's and O's coach" game from. Perhaps it's just something the Wade contrarians latched on to early and have never bothered to actually see if they are right. But the data doesn't lie. McMahon has been an AWFUL in game coach. They don't have a million turnovers over the course of 3 years simply because he hasn't been lucky enough to find a good PG. It's because it is impossible to play in this halfcourt offense without turning the ball over so much. There is no movement away from the ball. No hard cuts. Usually a big comes up high to set a lazy screen and that is the end of the entire action on the play. Everyone else just stands around while the PG (or whoever is handling the ball) is just pounding the ball on the floor with no purpose and no one open to get it to. Guys will eventually get frustrated and drive with no real plan. Once the defense cuts off the driving lane they have nowhere to go with the ball...because everyone is just standing around watching. It's an incredibly easy offense to defend.

Right now LSU is 104th in offensive efficiency and that number is plummeting in with every passing game. Last year they PEAKED at 99th...which isn't good. Of course, it looked "great" after finishing 152nd in that category the year before. 2.5 seasons. Significantly new rosters each year. Same poor results.

If you gave Bruce Pearl this roster he would find a way to win at least 8 games. If you gave McMahon Auburn's roster he might win 4. It's the coaching! That will finally become abundantly clear to all who don't want to see that when McMahon is ultimately replaced...and Trent Johnson will breath a sigh of relief as he will no longer be the barometer by which futility will be judged.

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I'm hoping for a little more out of the program than a participation trophy...but that's just me.

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I mean yeah. We’d all love Sweet 16 or deeper. But we haven’t made the tournament in years. A good place to start would be actually making the tournament and then go from there. As an LSU fan who admittedly doesn’t follow basketball like football or baseball, my bar for success in bball is tournament basically every year with the occasional run into the sweet 16 every 3-4 years. That should be attainable here at LSU

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Downvote me, you know I'm right. We were on the uptick, and they blew it up, because LSU basketball was, is, and always will be at the bottom in terms of LSU hierarchy. Disposable.

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Actually during Dale Brown's best years, football was down and basketball was what everyone looked forward to. Having an AD that was an ex basketball player didn't hurt either.