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re: How is Virginia hoops so good in year one of a head coach
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:28 pm to Madking
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:28 pm to Madking
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he met with everyone and even he said he could’ve kept more players than he di
Please provide proof of this comment.
The fact remains they all entered the portal the roster was empty. He did eventually get three to stay.
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:30 pm to tigersbb
Tigers but but I know your slow and cant comprehend more than one point at a time but the reason they all left is because they wanted no part of Mcloser the smelled the stink of loser on him and left!
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:32 pm to tigersbb
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The roster was empty when Mcmahon was hired. He was able to get three to stay:
Mwani who had a torn rotator cuff and was lost at mid season
Adam Miller returning from a major knee injury who has never regained his pre-injury status
Justice Williams whohad joined the team the previous year at mid season out of high school now with a half year of experience
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Obviously, you did not research the 3 players UVA has returning. I did - I encourage you to do so and come back to me - there is no argument to be made that the 3 CMM got back were not and are not better by any measure.
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He was also recruiting players with a major cloud of NCAA violations and penalties hanging over the program. Also because of the way Wade responded and all of the negative coverage from SI and others the whole program was cast in a very bad light. Portal transfers were not lining up to join that program.
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As i pointed out in my original post t -hat kind of stuff just doesn't carry the weight it did. Kids want playing time and they will go where they can get it - they are much more concerned with showing what they can do to promote themselves to make and NBA roster than they are with winning.
Even so by the analysis of folks who do such things for a living -LSU's portal and recruiting class that year was rated relatively decently and LSU was picked to finish as high as 8th in the conference by one service that year. and these services knew well all the things you stated - some even qualified there analysis with those facts.
But we're beating dead horses here. We've re-hashed this same argument here over and over and over again.
If you want to call it year zero - I can't stop you and I won't call u names and attack you for it - I'll just disagree every time and make the same argument above I've make literally 30 times before.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:32 pm to tigersbb
a-hole, go look the shite up for yourself. It’s been posted here at least a dozen times. The dates, the press conference are all public record. News articles for his hiring, for the portal announcements. Video of his press conference, the dates the portal opened that year. Actually get your facts straight instead of spewing bullshite 24/7.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:36 pm to Madking
Madking there is no factual reason why Mcloser has been the worst coach in program history other than he cant coach, but obviously Tigers but but but feels the need to stick up for his daddy or is a fan of another SEC team and wants LSU to keep Mcloser so LSU basketball remains a joke.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:38 pm to otowntiger
quote:"They" waiting on the Tournament to start and NC State to be eliminated.
It’s March 14th and Matt McMahon still has a job. WTF?
Just be Patient.
"THEY" (Rousse, Mallet, Ausberry, $$$$$ Power People)
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:39 pm to tigersbb
I did misquote and misremember the comment about retaining players. What he actually said was that he prioritized bringing his own guys over from Murray state and if he needed to bring more he would’ve. Instead he said he chose to build a more diverse roster.
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:43 pm to Rudy40
Well this is the false prism they want you to view the situation from. Nobody said he needed to build an SEC title team or replicate the previous coach’s success even though the mcmen said he would exceed it. What we’re saying is there’s no excuse for having….
-The worst tenure in program history
- the worst single season in program history
- twice having the second worst season in program history
- the longest losing streak in program history
- never having a winning streak in SEC play
Those are what’s inexcusable
-The worst tenure in program history
- the worst single season in program history
- twice having the second worst season in program history
- the longest losing streak in program history
- never having a winning streak in SEC play
Those are what’s inexcusable
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 3/15/26 at 6:01 pm to Rudy40
[quote]Madking there is no factual reason why Mcloser has been the worst coach in program history other than he cant co
I have already said on multiple occasions I dont care if he is replaced but if they do they need to go big. That doesn't change the fact that factors outside of his control such as major injuries to key players and trying to rebuild under NCAA investigation have made the job more difficult. He may have still done poorly, but has not had the opportunity to do with a full healthy roster. The one year he did they were 9-9 and finished in the top half of the league.
I have already said on multiple occasions I dont care if he is replaced but if they do they need to go big. That doesn't change the fact that factors outside of his control such as major injuries to key players and trying to rebuild under NCAA investigation have made the job more difficult. He may have still done poorly, but has not had the opportunity to do with a full healthy roster. The one year he did they were 9-9 and finished in the top half of the league.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 6:04 pm to tigersbb
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I have already said on multiple occasions I dont care if he is replaced but if they do they need to go big. That doesn't change the fact that factors outside of his control such as major injuries to key players and trying to rebuild under NCAA investigation have made the job more difficult. He may have still done poorly, but has not had the opportunity to do with a full healthy roster. The one year he did they were 9-9 and finished in the top half of the league.
When is McMahon going to get LSU to the tournament?
Posted on 3/15/26 at 6:05 pm to tigersbb
You have to be a troll. There is no other explanation
Posted on 3/15/26 at 6:08 pm to Circle K Beggar
He’s even lying about that. 8 of 14 teams made the tourney that season so by definition we were in the bottom half. This dude is a shill of some kind, he’s not ignorant he’s a liar.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 6:52 pm to Madking
Ignorant or a liar or just a fan of another SEC team that wants LSU to keep Mcloser so they stay down.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:57 am to tigersbb
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He may have still done poorly, but has not had the opportunity to do with a full healthy roster. The one year he did they were 9-9 and finished in the top half of the league.
But did so poorly against a very weak non-conference schedule that year, including losing at home to Nichols St. that and the SEC being a bit down - we were actually not even on the bubble that year.
I could cut and paste my thoughts on the rebuilding under NCAA investigation again, but I've posted it here 30 times so I'll spare you, my opinion is still the same.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:33 am to Madking
quote:If you look at the official SEC standings that season, we were technically “tied” for 7th (of 14 teams) but finished 8th in the overall standings and was the 8 seed in the SECT due to tie breakers.
He’s even lying about that. 8 of 14 teams made the tourney that season so by definition we were in the bottom half. This dude is a shill of some kind, he’s not ignorant he’s a liar.
That’s how disingenuous they are, completely ignore that tie breakers exist and omit any mention of them to try to say we finished top half of a 14 team league at the time but actually finished in 8th place by official SEC metrics, which are easily available at the SEC Sports website.
This is akin to 2003 Ole Miss co-SEC West Champions, yet didn’t play in the SECCG. Or NFL when 2 teams die for division record, but one team goes to the playoffs and the other’s season is over.
But they keep repeating it and some people will believe them.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:38 am to otowntiger
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It’s March 14th and Matt McMahon still has a job. WTF?
Bad news is he hasn't lost his job yet. Good news is he hasn't won his job either.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:42 am to nicholastiger
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He basically had to reboot that team
They were 15-17 last year, 8-12 in the ACC. Not exactly a reboot, but I get your point. Odom has done a great job. Wonder if NC State is asking the same thing.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:44 am to Madking
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“He didn’t lose the two greatest players to ever live”
The Mcmen
No, no, that was Shaq and Mahmoud "Chris Jackson" Abdul-Rauf.
It was the third and fourth greatest players ever.
But only because those guys haven't had enough time to prove you wrong.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:59 am to tigersbb
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That doesn't change the fact that factors outside of his control such as major injuries to key players and trying to rebuild under NCAA investigation have made the job more difficult. He may have still done poorly, but has not had the opportunity to do with a full healthy roster. The one year he did they were 9-9 and finished in the top half of the league.
I'm with you on the injuries especially this season being a tough hit to get through, but a lot of teams deal with injuries and dont completely fall apart either. Last year he lost Reed who has never even been an elite or high end player by any shape of the imagination and the team completely fell apart and sucked.
This year he lost Reed again but Thomas as well by SEC play and that certainly is rough to get through but if he maybe coached/recruited a little better we again wouldnt have been the worst team in the conference either.
Yes we did go 9-9 back in 2023-24, the only decent season McMahon had; but that also wasnt good enough to get to the NCAAT, so while BETTER than the other seasons, still not good enough to get to the NCAAT.
At some point you just have to cut ties with a guy who just doesnt seem to have it, and McMahon clearly doesnt seem to have it here. Can only make excuses about injuries so long when you're among the absolute worst in the conference still. If the program had ANY signs of life, maybe, just maybe. But it doesnt. Going 0 for 4 getting to the NCAAT at LSU is just inexcusable in the end. We would fire any previous coach for that kind of stretch, McMahon should be no different. Even if Reed/Thomas were healthy and you flipped all the close SEC games we had, we're sitting at 8-10 at best and STILL out of the tournament.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 8:02 am
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:31 am to drizztiger
What’s crazy drizz and to the other posters point about our guards who didn’t see much time this season is that if we did some version of Bucky Ball, we probably have at least some success. I’ve already told you I’m not a big fan of his because what he does is kind of gimmicky but he understands that 3 through 12 on his roster is mostly guys at the same talent level so he uses all of them. Same goes for us but McMahon is married to the 7-8 man rotation thing and he’ll never change. Thats my biggest gripe of him personally is that he refuses to change at all despite having the worst results possible for 4 years.
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