re: How is Virginia hoops so good in year one of a head coach

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FWIW he had the same number of players returning from the previous year's roster - three - that CMM did in his year zero.

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The roster was empty when Mcmahon was hired. He was able to get three to stay:

Mwani who had a torn rotator cuff and was lost at mid season
Adam Miller returning from a major knee injury who has never regained his pre-injury status
Justice Williams whohad joined the team the previous year at mid season out of high school now with a half year of experience

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I think some repeatedly absolve CMM for "year zero" underestimate the players who will transfer anywhere for more playing time in this portal era

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He was also recruiting players with a major cloud of NCAA violations and penalties hanging over the program. Also because of the way Wade responded and all of the negative coverage from SI and others the whole program was cast in a very bad light. Portal transfers were not lining up to join that program.

Duke lost 2 starters, and won the ACC.

A&M had ZERO players returning with a first year coach. They are in the tournament.

LSU had basically the same NIL budget as UGA & Bama this year. They are both in the tournament, we are last place.

At some point, you excuse makers have to listen to what you are saying and maybe…re-evaluate your position.

See A&M this year, and try again

Again that’s simply not true. Every single player who wasn’t named Tari Eason or wasn’t out of eligibility was still here when McMahon was hired. The portal wasn’t even open yet and zero players had announced they were leaving. You can go check the dates which have been posted for you at least a half dozen times yet you continue to lie about it. Even McMahon in his press conference said he could’ve kept more than the three he did if he needed to. Everything you’re saying is untrue.

They probably didn't build their team with a bunch of mid major transfers that were average at a mid major.

He will go down as the worst coach in any sport in program history.

I wish we could talk in person. I'd talk you off of the ledge a bit.

You and I agree on most things pertaining to LSU basketball.

I'm not guaranteeing anything, and have ZERO sources. I'm just using logic, and everything (to me at least), points to a Wade return.

We just need the wolfpack bounced ASAP!!!

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Again that’s simply not true. Every single player who wasn’t named Tari Eason or wasn’t out of eligibility was still here when McMahon was hired. The portal wasn’t even open yet and zero players had announced they were leaving. You can go check the dates which have been posted for you at least a half dozen times yet you continue to lie about it. Even McMahon in his press conference said he could’ve kept more than the three he did if he needed to. Everything you’re saying is untrue.

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I didn't research the dates but the fact remains at some date close to his hire, either before or after the contract was igned the roster was empty. You can dance on the head of a fricking pin all you want but there was a point where all eligible players were in the portal.

There’s only dancing from you, even admitting you don’t know the dates in question. I’m simply stating the facts. He was hired March 22nd the first guy to announce he was leaving was Miller who returned, the next guy announced 9 days later, I think it was O’Neal. The portal opened April 4th or 9th if I’m not mistaken, I could be mixing up the title game and portal dates. So everyone was here when he arrived, he met with everyone and even he said he could’ve kept more players than he did. So stop the BS, it isn’t true.