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re: How is this the fault of Alleva?

Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12247 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:35 pm to
Sorry, how many other coaches were caught on wire taps discussing facially improper offers?
Posted by Steve Janowski
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
647 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:35 pm to
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Wade was being investigated by the FBI.

So is Bruce Pearl and he got a 5 year extension with Auburn. He hasn't talked to his AD in 2 years!
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10929 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:37 pm to
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You clearly don’t know jack shite about what you’re talking about. Better to not start these threads when you have absolutley no idea what’s going on.
OP is the newest charter member of the ever growing Tiger Rant DAGRCD Club.

Dumb As Georgia Red Clay Dirt.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:38 pm to
It's not. People on here are just idiots.

I want Alleva gone as well.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:40 pm to
Would Alleva be a desireable AD hire at one of LSU’s peers?

The whole situation is embarrassing. The only people supporting the administration side is the administration. LOL
Posted by DamStrongTeam
Member since Dec 2008
283 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:40 pm to
Wade already coached the season so suspending him was the dumbest move possible. Fire him or support him is the only move. Suspending him only brought more negativity to LSU.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113964 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:40 pm to
In summary:

First, Wade wasn't being investigated. This was an investigation into Christian Dawkins.

As for as why this is Alleva's fault. Well, it might not be all his fault because King is the one who told Alleva to suspend Wade, but it was a knee jerk reaction.

For whatever reason yahoo published their article the day after we beat Florida on the road (which put us undefeated on the road in conference play). Will Wade wasn't the only coach the feds had information on, discussing "pay for play".

They had text from Bill Self (Kansas HC) discussing offering Zion Williamson $100k & a new house for his parents. A year earlier a report was published about the whole FBI investigation and it said that there could be up to 50 schools involved.

Alleva knew about the whole FBI thing and Will Wade being part of the investigation since at least October, which he made a public statement about.

So why all of a sudden suspend Wade, especially with the success the team had and right before the NCAA tournament? Even if there was anything, suspending him wouldn't change anything if they were going to vacate the wins, the SEC title, etc. The damage would have already been done.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:42 pm to
Alleva allowed this to turn into a cluster frick. This should have been dealt with long before the NCAA tourney
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6126 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Sorry, how many other coaches were caught on wire taps discussing facially improper offers?


At least two that we know of.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Wade was being investigated by the FBI. 




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Wade and Arizona coach Sean Miller have been subpoenaed by defense attorneys to appear in the second of three federal trials of college basketball figures, which is scheduled to begin April 22 in New York. Federal prosecutors have filed a motion to keep the coaches from having to testify in that trial. 


quote:

Alleva did the right thing in suspending the coach who is under FBI investigation before the sport's biggest tournament as a precaution.




It's amazing how idiotic people don't understand the difference between being subpoenaed by a defense team versus an actual federal investigation. Bunch of imbeciles posting the same wrong shite over & over again.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:48 pm to
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At least two that we know of


Uh, the Arizona coach and the Virginia Coach both have been name dropped. I heard someone close to the investigation say that it’s more like 40 something coaches are on these FBI tapes
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
423 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:49 pm to
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Jesus Christ. The stupidity on this site really knows no bounds. ?
So does purple and gold glasses wearing without a hint of possessing any kind of impartiality.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40139 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:49 pm to
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Wade was being investigated by the FBI.

Wade decided not to meet with LSU.

Alleva did the right thing in suspending the coach who is under FBI investigation before the sport's biggest tournament as a precaution. Any school would have done the same.

What did Alleva do to:
Cuase Wade to be investigated?
Cause Wade not to meet with LSU?


Alleva and his compliance department either did not think this was a big issue or did not investigate it when the news of Wade's allegations first broke back in 11/2018. After the "strong arse offer" comment Alleva overreacted to try and save his face. This turned out to have minor impact in the grand scheme of things, but Alleva this has to be the last straw for Alleva as AD.
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
423 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:52 pm to
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 Alleva always said with Miles that everything would be evaluated after the season. Should have done that with Wade.
Seriously you are comparing the two? Dumb! That's like saying even if credible evidence was presented against Wade that it shouldn't have been looked into until after the season.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278455 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Did all the other schools allegedly caught up in this suspend their coaches?


Most got fired & or arrested
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34656 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 12:58 pm to
Alleva surrendered to the crap going down faster than the French Army in 1940...at least the French put up something resembling a fight...
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40139 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:00 pm to
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 Alleva always said with Miles that everything would be evaluated after the season. Should have done that with Wade.
Seriously you are comparing the two? Dumb! That's like saying even if credible evidence as presented against Wade that it shouldn't have been looked into until after the season.




That is a dumb comparison especially since Alleva was referring to the regular season when evaluating Miles. Alleva suspended Wade for one game during the regular season and LSU had already locked up a share of the SEC regular season title.
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
423 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:01 pm to
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Even if there was anything, suspending him wouldn't change anything if they were going to vacate the wins, the SEC title, etc. The damage would have already been done.
The damage you mentioned would have already been done, but more could have been done in the way of scholarship losses and/or tournament bans if LSU hadn't gotten out in front of this.
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5691 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:03 pm to
1. HE WAS NOT UNDER INVESTIGATION.

2. HE WAS ONLY ASKED TO TESTIFY IN AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.

3. HIS ATTORNEY TOLD HIM HE WAS NOT ABLE TO SPEAK REGARDING THE ON-GOING INVESTIGATION. (This is common practice for most involved in on-going investigations).

4. JOE ALLEVA, F. KING, EARINGS WILLIAMS, AND THE REST OF THE GANG SUSPENDED OUR COACH BASED ON AN UNVERIFIED YAHOO STORY CREATED BASED ON OPINION AND SOME LEAKED WIRE TAPS.

5. NOTHING IN THE WIRETAP WAS HARD PROOF THAT WILL WADE BROKE ANY RULES. ALL HE SAID WAS THAT I made a strong A$$ offer. That offer could mean many legal things.

I really wish folks like you would stop giving this inept administrator a pass for their stupidity. They look out for only themselves and not this university. They all need to go!

Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Wade was being investigated by the FBI.



Shane4689, go crawl back under your rock.
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