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How highly did you regard BK as coach at ND?

Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
4064 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:08 pm
As a college football fan what were your thoughts, top 5, top 10, top 20 coach? I always thought he was solid, could handle media a little better at times, but gave him benefit of doubt because of recruiting and geographical disadvantages. So top 10??
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98184 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:10 pm to
I didn't think about him one way or another. I knew he was the ND coach, that's all.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8966 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:10 pm to
I thought he was top 5, but not capable of reaching the top. I never thought about what he could do at another school, I thought he would retire at ND.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20997 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:11 pm to
I'll admit that when news first broke that LSU hired Kelly, I was upset.
I always knew he was up there with the top tier but my bias against Notre Dame definitely clouded my perspective on him.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:12 pm to
Top 10 coach

Hard to argue with the success he had at Cincy and he brought ND back up to relevance after Weiss.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:12 pm to
I thought he was a too 15-20 coach. Notre dame always played an extremely easy schedule and got beat pretty badly anytime they got into the playoffs. They didn’t have the ability to get the same recruits a school like LSU can do it’s hard to know how he would have done with better recruits.

That being said, he is a massive upgrade from Orgeron. Lsu doesn’t need the best coach in football to win. He’s very professional but I do like that he’s opening up a little at LSU and showing more personality. It seems like this change is really good for him. I’m cautiously optimistic about the future.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7470 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:13 pm to
I thought he was shite at first but got better as the years went on. I still don't think he's a top 5 coach but we dont need a top 5 coach to win nattys anyway
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1033 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Top 10 coach

Same here. Excited about the hire.
Posted by Purplehaze44
Member since Jun 2015
1432 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:14 pm to
I thought he was Notre Dame brand Les Miles.

I still think he is but if Les can win here so can he. Especially if Saban leaves in the next 3ish years. Then the SEC becomes wide open again.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:14 pm to
Top 5
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79090 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:16 pm to
Top 15 coach who has potential to do great things. I don’t think he has the grit to win it all - especially at what we’re paying him.

This board is expecting way too much from BK and in a year or two, we’re going to be calling for his head. Bookmark this post if you must but he’s not the answer.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3618 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:17 pm to
Top 5 coach in his prime. The kind of coach no college program should be able to pull away but Woodward did.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10699 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:17 pm to
Thought he was a bit of a prick but a good coach. He’s our prick now
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:27 pm to
Not very highly if I’m being completely honest. I thought in big games he coached cowardly and conservative
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54566 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:32 pm to
i thought he ran a really good program and they seemed tough on the offensive and defensive lines. I knew he couldn't stack up talent wise with bamas of the world but was in the playoffs quite a bit.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18209 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:35 pm to
Rarely noticed. Maybe 7-10.
Posted by Jb1994
Member since Sep 2018
2116 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:36 pm to
Thought he was a top 10 coach at worst. People hate notre dame and judge him unfairly because of it. Having notre dame in the playoffs is not something many other coaches could do
Posted by Florida Horn
Member since Dec 2021
27 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:40 pm to
Notre Dame fans are glad he's gone because he was never going to get ND over the hump. He's a disengaged, mediocre recruiter and that just doesn't work at ND. I believe it was Urban Meyer who said that ND's biggest recruiting advantage is its national reach and the fact that pretty much every recruit in the country will take your call. ND's biggest disadvantage in recruiting is that they have a relatively small natural recruiting base, so they enter almost every recruiting battle in 3rd place. It takes a lot of effort and relationship building to convince a recruit to move across the country to ND. Kelly just didn't put in the effort to do that, and when he did, I don't think recruits really warmed up to him.

ND fans are excited because on the recruiting front, Marcus Freeman is everything Kelly wasn't and is exactly what ND needs. It obviously won't matter one iota, however, if Freeman can't maintain the program and culture that Kelly built.

Kelly has other shortcomings as a coach too that hindered him at ND. Contrary to popular belief, he is absolutely not a QB whisperer, and in fact, his development and management of that position was piss poor. This dogged ND on the recruiting trail trying to get elite QBs and WRs. ND fans are very split on whether keeping Rees on as OC was a good move or not.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
4064 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

I thought he was Notre Dame brand Les Miles.


Good comparison in my opinion. (In football regards).
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:40 pm to
One step above Orgeron.
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