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re: How far have we fallen can't even beat Norte Dame

Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:30 pm to
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Wrong CPM didn’t build this program from the ground up and doesn’t challenge for titles every year. And saying a 64 team playoff is the same as a 2 or 4 team playoff couldn’t be farther from the truth.


What was the status of the program when he took over, do you even remember? And im not referring to making the tourney, im talking about having his team as a top 8 seed each of the last 6 years and 8 of the last 10 years
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63417 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:30 pm to
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Wrong CPM didn’t build this program from the ground up and doesn’t challenge for titles every year.


LSU has been a top 8 national seed for something like 6 years running now. That's six years in a row entering the postseason in the top 8 of the nation, with as good of a chance as anyone to win the national title.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59487 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:43 pm to
Laval made the college World Series twice in 5 years that’s 40% of the time, CPM has made it 5 of 11 years that’s 45%. Yea I remember just fine do you?
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 7:44 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:47 pm to
You can use whatever useless stat you want. If you are seriously tying to compare PM to Laval, you need to see a doctor. Lavals last year saw lsu miss the post season for the first time in well over a decade. PM was in the championship series last year. That’s all that matters.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:48 pm to
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but it is a fact that criticizing CPM and the baseball team is completely off limits here.

Wtf are you talking about? People were bashing him in the middle of the CWS final series.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40033 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:49 pm to
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Laval made the college World Series twice in 5 years that’s 40% of the time, CPM has made it 5 of 11 years that’s 45%. Yea I remember just fine do you?

Yikes
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59487 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:00 pm to
I didn’t bring up the comparison somebody els didn’t using a false description of what we had done before CPM got here. Trying reading the thread before you make ignorant judgements of posts. You’re just proving my point by calling facts useless, you’re the kindve guy who ignores facts that don’t support their position while treating those that do as gospel.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
39139 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:05 pm to
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The "program" was in no way in horrible shape. The field was littered with NFL talent. You want to see horrible shape, just give O a few more years.

You sir, are your own worst enemy. You can't see the end of your nose you're so nutty. You don't think that "field littered with NFL talent" shouldn't have been battling for championships and beating Bama more than they were??? Les was horrible with our offensive progress. O is still a work in the making. A year from now I'll let you better judge the situation. For now you're showing intellectual dishonesty and your spoiled brat raising.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:05 pm to
I read the thread. We were talking about the status of the program when Laval left and you brought up his two trips to Omaha as if that had anything to do with the last year he was here.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14397 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:19 pm to
Lucky for Notre Dame, they don’t play us in softball.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80275 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:26 pm to
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Laval made the college World Series twice in 5 years that’s 40% of the time, CPM has made it 5 of 11 years that’s 45%. Yea I remember just fine do you?

Holy shite do you even understand the difference between what Laval inherited and what PM inherited. PM inherited a team that missed the postseason, and the team had only a few guys with LSU talent. Their work ethic had been shot to shite, and the pitching was almost non-existent. If Laval had been given another year, that team would have surely missed the post-season. When he took over from Skip, the first two years, those teams were built for him to get to omaha. And so he did, and went 0 for once he got there. PM after rebuilding that shitty team he was given, has gone to omaha 5 times in 10 years....when the league is deeper and tougher than it was when Laval competed in it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59487 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:52 pm to
Do you understand what he inherited?
Blake Dean
Jared Mitchell
Ryan Schimpf
Lois Coleman
Sean Ochinko
Jared Bradford
To name a few, you know the core leaders and top players from the 1 and only national title CPM won. Saying the program was in schambles because of 1 year prior to him taking over is just plain false. But to the actual point I was making I haven’t once criticized CPM in this thread, all I said was it was taboo to do it and you come running like an attack dog which just proves my point.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20043 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:05 pm to
Beat them???

We can’t even spell their name correctly in the thread title!
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32904 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:56 pm to
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Laval made the college World Series twice in 5 years that’s 40% of the time, CPM has made it 5 of 11 years that’s 45%. Yea I remember just fine do you? This post was edited on 2/18 at 7:44 pm

Smoke was starting to miss the post season. LSU was in the CWS championship series last year.
SEC championships CPM - 4 Smoke - 1
SEC tournament championships CPM - 6 (same as Skip) Smoke - 0.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 9:59 pm to
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They'd probably kick our arse in a spelling bee, too.


In punctuation as well
Posted by blackmouthcur
Member since Sep 2016
400 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 10:07 pm to
LMAO! Like anyone cares what you think, loser. You're basically already dead. Nobody cares...g'bye
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59487 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:43 am to
You people have managed to move the goal post out of the stadium you’ve gone so far off topic. I never once said Smoke had as much success as CPM I haven’t once criticized CPM. The comment was made that CPM built LSUs baseball program from scratch to what it is now which is totally false. You’re not building from scratch when you inherit a team that had been to 2 World Series in the past 4 seasons and the previous coach leaves you the 3 best position players and your ace for your one and only national title team. The stats I posted about Smoke were to illustrate that point not to compare his success to CPMs. But once again I appreciate you proving my original point beyond the shadow of any doubt.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 1:16 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:49 am to
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I never once said Smoke had as much success as CPM
You did exactly this. 40% to 45% right?
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You’re not building from scratch when you inherit a team that had been to 2 World Series in the past 4 seasons
The team PM inherited was shite. Again you bring up the CWS appearances as if they’re relevant. They’re not. See a doctor.
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the previous coach leaves you the 3 best position players and your ace for your one and only national title team.
Are you saying that Louis Coleman was an Ace in 2006? He was 5-6 with a 6.14 ERA. You know what made him so good? Coaching. Terry changed his delivery 3 or 4 times before he became the pitcher he was in 2009. And none of the 2006 freshman made any big impacts as position players. Dean, Schimpf, Ochinko, Mitchell were all brought in in 2007. Only two of those guys were Smoke recruit holdovers. Not that you make a legit point when there are 6 other critical position players and just as many pitchers that are critical to a national title.

Laval is the one who inherited good players and eventually, his laziness ruined the program.

2002 - 44 wins and a SR
2003 - 45 wins and 0-2 CWS
2004 - 46 wins and 0-2 CWS
2005 - 40 wins and lost the regional. First time lsu didn’t make a SR
2006 - 35 wins and no post season. First time in 18 years. And first time in 24 years LSU had a losing SEC record. THIS is the team PM got. Not a CWS team. GTFO.
Posted by Le Bistouquette
Member since Oct 2016
192 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 6:33 am to
We still have gymnastics.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59487 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:30 am to
No in fact I didn’t say any of what you claim I did but that’s what people like you do, you twist posts and put words in people’s mouths to change the entire post. You also claimed that Dean, Schimpf, Mitchell, and Coleman were shite and that Lavals last season was 06 lol. You don’t know a whole lot maybe you should do some research you might look less stupid.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 8:31 am
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