re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?

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No shite? They still would not place sanctions over the tapes conversation. Period. End of discussion. You guys act like the NCAA is just itching to hand out sanctions to any team it possibly can. They are not. They know these players are getting paid, and as long as they are making money too, they don’t care. The only time they hand out sanctions is when the evidence is overwhelming.

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Not a period and not end of story. NCAA is looking to hand out sanctions when necessary to pretend it's an above board association and college athletics is a "pure, pristine amateur" sport. NCAA is looking to hit LSU basketball bc WW's leaked wiretap directly affects that image.

There are alot of potential explanations for the comments. The one I would recommend is "there was no real offer. I was telling this guy there was an offer to see how much money Kentucky was really offering"

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WW has no idea how many conversations were captured in the FBI wiretap.

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But if he didn't talk to Dawkins often, he might know how many times they spoke and what was said.

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But if he didn't talk to Dawkins often, he might know how many times they spoke and what was said.

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I agree. And only two people know how big that “if” is. Well— two people and the FBI.

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Except for the person that was caught on tape. He could say,"Its all bullshite and taken out of context and I did nothing wrong and violated no NCAA rule." We haven't heard that yet from WW

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Wtf? He said he has not done business with Dawkins. He also said don't rush to judgement before it's all out.

He said what you are asking, just not the exact words you used.

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He said he has not done business with Dawkins. He also said don't rush to judgement before it's all out.

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Point to the part where he said, “I did not violate NCAA rule. I did nothing wrong.” Or even where he said, “I never offered to pay a player, arranged to have player paid or I never paid a player.”

He can’t and won’t say that. It sucks. But this is where we are bc both WW and LSU handle this in media instead of quietly, privately.

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You guys act like the NCAA is just itching to hand out sanctions to any team it possibly can. They are not. They know these players are getting paid, and as long as they are making money too, they don’t care. The only time they hand out sanctions is when the evidence is overwhelming.

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That's semantics. The NCAA will always do enough to justify their existence and defend collegiate sports as "amateur". They can't let egregious cases slide. Ole Miss is a case in point. Mizzou is another.
The NCAA has a lower standard of proof as well. They would certain cite those tapes as justification.
Obviously it's widely believed that the AAU, shoe company "intermediaries" etc "influence" players college choices etc. Louisville is a case in point yet few others have faced any consequences. Right now, LSU appears to be in the crosshairs.
That's on Wade not LSU.

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How and who they lower the boom upon, will depend on what FBI has to turn over to journalist pursuant to FOIA request and what is in wiretaps.

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They already have information on 50+ programs and players that received improper benefits, including LSU with Jarell Martin and Tim Quuarterman.

The breadth of names, schools and current players could offer a vexing test for both university compliance offices and the NCAA’s enforcement division. The sheer number of potential cases and varying degrees of potential violations are vast. There’s also an overriding factor of the ongoing criminal investigations. A complicating facet to it will be the NCAA’s potential inability to view key documents related to this case, because those details not in the criminal complaints are sealed under protective order. In terms of eligibility, the NCAA and the institution may be prohibited from interviewing people associated with the case because of the parallel criminal cases. (Me:Except for LSU who is trying to force the issue) (The initial onus to decide is almost always on the school in an eligibility case.)

No one is certain how the NCAA enforcement office would potentially handle the cases. The NCAA has been in constant contact with the feds but so far has had minimal direct involvement with the case, as it has been careful to respect the boundaries of the criminal investigations. (Me: Again, except for LSU) The likely scenario, according to Brown, would be for the schools to assess the credibility of what’s in the documents and the severity of the potential violations. (Me: LSU is going hardline).
“There’s potential for chaos, as it depends on the number of cases and the amount of information that’s released,” Brown said. “There could be inconsistency as a subset of chaos, as different schools may very validly assess the credibility of [the cases] differently.” (Me: LSU is going to burn the muthas down).


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So you see, I'm not for cheating. In a perfect world, it would be great if amateur athletics was pure, but it's not. If the Wade situation was a singular instance of cheating, I'd probably be with the administration. But as the article states, the sheer vastness of the cheating makes it impossible for the NCAA to do anything but try to change some rules and hopefully clean things up. They will leave it to each school to self-enforce and LSU is leading the charge to destroy their own program.

I'm not for cheating, but I'm also not for unilateral disarmament. LSU is no dirtier and Will Wade is no dirtier than any other school or coach out there. I just want equal justice for all. LSU admin is burning it down when they don't need to and that pisses me off.

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I'm not for cheating, but I'm also not for unilateral disarmament. LSU is no dirtier and Will Wade is no dirtier than any other school or coach out there. I just want equal justice for all.

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I agree with this point. How the NCAA and LSU came to this point, I don’t know. Everyone has their own ideas. Is it mostly assistants caught in scheme? I know about Miller and Wade. Any other head coaches on tape?