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re: Hot take: John Chavis was better in his first 3 years and 4 games at LSU than Arandas been
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:10 am to FreddieMac
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:10 am to FreddieMac
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What does have to do with anything? The Clemson defense showed they are legit in blowing out Alabama & holding the best offense ever at Bama to 16 points. You can try to shite on them all you want to but they currently have the National Titles & number of high defensive draft picks over the years to legitimize their place as one of the top defenses in the country. Sorry the truth hurts.
Exactly.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:10 am to Brazos
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I hope Aranda leaves just so I can see y’all crying about the next DC.
This is not a criticism of Aranda or a desire to have him replaced because I don't want him to leave, but a simple question.
If he does leave do people believe that with Scott Woodard as AD and our current staff and what we currently pay Aranda, that we can't go out and get a very good DC that puts a good product on the field? We still have Raymond and Busch who will ensure we recruit top DBs. I would love for us to find a top DL coach, but our D is full of 4/5 star talent. It's not like we don't have the players to be elite. We've had very good Ds under Pellini, Muschamp, Chavis and Aranda. Why do some people think we can't go out and get another DC ace?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:10 am to The Boat
You are easily the worst and most idiotic poster on the board. Would be much better off if you'd quit creating insanely stupid threads
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:14 am to BayouCowboy
Go watch Brent Venable (DC) at Clemson. Constant Attack and disrupting the offense and Backfield.
His Defense forces the action against the offense. No sitting and waiting. When he blitzes, he sends two extra guys. Not just one. We have been sending one extra guy and its not working
I am not sending another extra guy when we blitz is the key to the defense, but overall , Venables makes the offense adjust quickly.
His Defense forces the action against the offense. No sitting and waiting. When he blitzes, he sends two extra guys. Not just one. We have been sending one extra guy and its not working
I am not sending another extra guy when we blitz is the key to the defense, but overall , Venables makes the offense adjust quickly.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:21 am to KevinFaulkDaGawd
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weird, I didn't see any comparison of LSU and Clemson's strength in schedule in this nonsensical response.
Because one wasn't necessary to respond to your nonsensical, shite post.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:23 am to The Boat
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The Boat
You posted opinions, barely any facts. Show the numbers for the major categories and then we will talk.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:25 am to KevinFaulkDaGawd
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maybe wait til LSU has played more than 1 SEC game??? yikes.
so you think our defensive stats will improve when we don't play cupcakes 3 out of 4 games?
Will our offensive stats get better also?
I don't want to point out how dumb your logic is but generally stats get worse for defense and offense when the competition gets tougher
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:26 am to Topwater Trout
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but there is no room for concern
there is a difference between concern and whining/blaming. IDGAF what the ranking is 4 games into a season.
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we can excuse the stats for us in this gane bc we allowed an offensive td or in that game because of OT and on and on
7 OT is a huge outlier, the points scored in OT in that one game moved the season avg 3 points, that's massive. The D held A&M to a FG in OT a couple of times, that's a stop. 4 games into a season 2 TDs scored by the other team also make a massive difference. I only point them out because of your obsession with the rankings. You can still have a good D even if it isn't ranked 1st or 2nd in the SEC.
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Well the thing about that is if you want to adjust the stats to exclude offensive tds allowed for us it needs to be done for every team.
How many other teams played a 7 OT game? over a 13 game season a couple of defensive TDs won't matter too much. I only point it out because whiners are melting over giving up 38 to Vandy.
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We have played a third of the season...would you agree it will be the easiest 4 game stretch on our schedule?
overall yes, but there is one team that's not like the other, i'll let you figure out who that is.
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So why do you think this defense will be fixed with the strength of our schedule still to come?
First because i realize the transitive property doesn't apply, because a team did this in that stretch doesn't mean it will be the exact same going forward. This was the "easiest" stretch because it included 2 scrub OOC games and Vandy. We gave up 17 in the 2 scrub games and 24 vs Vandy. The 24 isn't great, but no need for panic either. And just because we din't play lights out 2000 Ravens style D vs Vandy, doesn't mean the D will play the exact same vs other better teams, after giving up a big run and TD on the opening drive, the D then held Vandy to 3 and out twice, 5 plays turnover on downs and FG while the O scored 4 TDs. Overall Vandy punted 7 times. turned it over on downs at least once (that means the D stopped them on 4th down btw) and had 2 turnovers. overall that's not bad, not great, but not bad and we won the game by 28 including 2 scores allowed by the offense.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:32 am to The Boat
Dave Aranda is the most overrated and overpaid coordinator in all of football. His defense has declined every year.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:32 am to Jamey21
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Clemson has been running a fast Tempo offense for the last 5 years. In 2018, Win a national championship,
2018 total stats below:
Offensive scoring over 15 games 44.9
Defense allowed only 15.1 points per game.
So don't come to the table with excuses about our new offense distorting the defense's ability to stop teams from scoring.
Jezzzz
OK, great, so all we have to do is be one of the greatest teams in the history of college football to make some of you happy.
ETA: Clemson gave up 501 yards and 26 to A&M and 600 yards and 35 to South Carolina
If LSU did that you guys would be in nuclear melt down mode
Maybe the Boat can explain to me why Clemson should have been concerned going into the playoffs after that performance against the Cocks, I'm trying to figure out how you can give up 35 TO South freaking Carolina and hold Alabama to 16/ Its almost like what happens in 1 game doesn't affect the others
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:36 am to Topwater Trout
You are basing future results on past results. In case you have not noticed, 2019 LSU aint 2017 LSU, 2015 LSU, 2011 LSU. You cannot simply say "well because ABC happened in the past, ABC will happen again this time."
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:37 am to H-Town Tiger
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OK, great, so all we have to do is be one of the greatest teams in the history of college football to make some of you happy.
Don't forget about the part where we join a conference where we play 1 ranked team all year.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:40 am to KevinFaulkDaGawd
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Don't forget about the part where we join a conference where we play 1 ranked team all year.
they played 2 SEC teams last year and gave up 1100 yards and 61 points
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:45 am to BayouCowboy
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If he does leave do people believe that with Scott Woodard as AD and our current staff and what we currently pay Aranda, that we can't go out and get a very good DC that puts a good product on the field?
Chavis was a very good DC when he was here. Everyone thought that LSU would be fine simply by going out and getting another longtime SEC DC, Kevin Steele. Steele had a good track record before being here, and his auburn defenses have been really good.
But he sucked big time in 2015. There is no two ways about it. So yes, I do believe that this notion that LSU can simply go out and get a DC who will field a defense as good as LSUs is silly.
For anyone who has doubts about Aranda's tenure, I give you this:
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:50 am to Tiger_Style
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You are easily the worst and most idiotic poster on the board. Would be much better off if you'd quit creating insanely stupid threads
7 pages and counting. Looks like I know what I’m doing.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:58 am to The Boat
What is it with you constantly hating on Aranda? Did he screw your wife or something? Get over yourself dude.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:06 am to KevinFaulkDaGawd
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Kevin Steele. Steele had a good track record before being here, and his auburn defenses have been really good. But he sucked big time in 2015. There is no two ways about it. So yes, I do believe that this notion that LSU can simply go out and get a DC who will field a defense as good as LSUs is silly.
Steele was here one season after Chavis had let the D slip. We don't know if he would have been able to bring in better personnel and a better system. His success at Auburn has been good. Again, this is not a dump Aranda narrative or an "anyone can have success with this talent". I just think that we have the resources and AD that IF Aranda was to leave we could likely go out and get a very good DC that would be successful.
Until that time comes, I'm more than happy to ride with Aranda.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:17 pm to BayouCowboy
5 out of 6 downvotes. Enough said.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:53 pm to KevinFaulkDaGawd
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You are basing future results on past results. In case you have not noticed, 2019 LSU aint 2017 LSU, 2015 LSU, 2011 LSU. You cannot simply say "well because ABC happened in the past, ABC will happen again this time."
Do you think that teams stats usually improve when the l veil of competition gets tougher?
If everyone thinks this defense is all of a sudden going to get better as we enter the strength of our schedule they must think our offenseive stats will improve also right?
I’m simply asking you to provide the logic that makes you think our stats will get better as our opponents get better
Posted on 9/27/19 at 3:36 pm to Topwater Trout
Players returning from injury, the team improving as the season goes on, the competition not being nearly as hard as you are making it out to be.
Pretty sure last I checked Ole Miss Arkansas and State are all still on the schedule. A&M certainly aint looking like a top 25 team getting whipped at home (if you watched the game you know the final score isn't accurate of how badly Auburn beat them).
LSU gets Auburn and UF at home.
There are several reasons why I believe what I believe. I am not just some delusional sunshine pumper who is ignoring reality.
The ones ignoring reality are the ones saying that the defense sucks while failing to acknowledge the fact that the defense hasn't been at full strength since the 3rd quarter of the Texas game.
Pretty sure last I checked Ole Miss Arkansas and State are all still on the schedule. A&M certainly aint looking like a top 25 team getting whipped at home (if you watched the game you know the final score isn't accurate of how badly Auburn beat them).
LSU gets Auburn and UF at home.
There are several reasons why I believe what I believe. I am not just some delusional sunshine pumper who is ignoring reality.
The ones ignoring reality are the ones saying that the defense sucks while failing to acknowledge the fact that the defense hasn't been at full strength since the 3rd quarter of the Texas game.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 3:37 pm
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