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re: Hot take: John Chavis was better in his first 3 years and 4 games at LSU than Arandas been

Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:29 am to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:29 am to
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way more times than not our stats will be worse against the Bama s and Florida’s than they will against the cupcakes


so again, what is the goal, win games or put up "pretty" stats? Despite what you might think, Texas is not a cupcake. And outside of Alabama, they probably have the best O we will face.

In 2010 with Chavis we gave up 36 to Ole Miss who finished 7th in the SEC in ppg on offense, why did we allow more points to them than we did to Auburn (21) Ark (31) and Bama (21) who finished 1-2-3 in offense? I thought stats aren't better vs better teams?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47424 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:47 am to
Geez.
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2637 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:05 am to
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How much hand do you suppose Aranda had in recruiting the guys that made up the 2016 and 2017 defenses?


He has less the more his recruits have played, unfortunately. I believe he gets it turned around but damn, it is ugly right now.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5062 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:39 am to
The question may not be how Aranda matches up with the best offenses LSU faces, but instead how he matches up with the best defenses LSU plays.

Florida is tied for the most sacks in the country, and Grantham will bring pressure and blitzes from everywhere. They're going to get to Burrow.

Can Aranda hold serve? That's the real question.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:47 am to
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H-Town Tiger


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You don't even know what the transitive property is do you

Can you explain why Clemson gave up 600 yards and 35 points to South Carolina and only 16 points to Alabama? It wasn't because South Carolina had a better Offense based on stats.


The offenses teams are running these days are better or more productive scoring and gaining yards. The transitive property does not really seem to apply as nothing is equal in sports along with comparisons of players and teams in different years.

Comparing different seasons and in this case different decade is just not reasonable. The old we beat them and they lost to them means we are better than they also does not apply in sports. The games are played to determine the winner of the game and yes we keep stats of each game but stats do not win and teams with the better stats tend to rise to the top similar to the recruiting rankings where the teams finishing to the top win championships.

Chavis had a great career at Tenn and LSU and his defenses kept LSU in most of the games while he coached under Les. Chavis was fortunate to have an offense the ate up the clock giving his players time to rest and the opposing offenses were not like the RPO we play now. No way to compare Chavis to Aranda


Posted by ST3PH3N
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
466 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:34 pm to
Bump. Chavis’ defense sucks.
Posted by ST3PH3N
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
466 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:39 pm to
I do not miss how much Chavis gave up big plays with under a minute to go before halftime and at the end of games.
A&ms drive before half was a painful reminder of LSUs last game against Clemson
Posted by MJG
Member since Oct 2018
35 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:44 pm to
First, I don't agree that LSU doesn't have talented DL. It's the coaches' jobs to get max out of each player, and have them working as a team. And it's the DC's responsibility period. He needs to get the assistants to perform. No excuses. Certainly not having great recruits, if true, would be on him as well as others. A great defense doesn't require excuses.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12183 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Jamey21
Clemson has been running a fast Tempo offense for the last 5 years. In 2018, Win a national championship,
2018 total stats below:

Offensive scoring over 15 games 44.9
Defense allowed only 15.1 points per game.

So don't come to the table with excuses about our new offense distorting the defense's ability to stop teams from scoring.

Jezzzz
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