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re: Here’s the deal with LSU Baseball and Injuries
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:36 am to Dizz
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:36 am to Dizz
I wonder what impact the NCAA mandated limits between the coaches and players has on the communication between the players and coaches.
It's already tough for guys to communicate soreness they've not felt before. I wonder if the time constraints make that even more difficult.
It's already tough for guys to communicate soreness they've not felt before. I wonder if the time constraints make that even more difficult.
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:37 am to Terrific Tales
i'll play along. can you give me some more examples of this happening at other schools?
using your theory, there should be a few dozen other instances. I think we all know about MSU in 2017. If this is a regular, predictable statistical occurance, we should be able to not only identify this happening many times over the years, but moving forward your anaylsis should be used to predict it happening in the future.
Which school is due for a rash of injuries next, based on having healthy pitchers now?
using your theory, there should be a few dozen other instances. I think we all know about MSU in 2017. If this is a regular, predictable statistical occurance, we should be able to not only identify this happening many times over the years, but moving forward your anaylsis should be used to predict it happening in the future.
Which school is due for a rash of injuries next, based on having healthy pitchers now?
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:41 am to BigEdLSU
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can you give me some more examples of this happening at other schools?
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I think we all know about MSU in 2017.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:43 am to BigEdLSU
Auburn has been missing basically two of their starters and like 3 bullpen pitchers this entire year
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:45 am to StTiger
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But rantards think it's the coaches
In their defense, They need a coach to call for his head and Paul is the low hanging fruit since Miles is gone.
Once Paul is gone they will go after the next, then the next. It never ends with rantards
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:46 am to ProjectP2294
Time constraints don't help but coaches are always going be overly cautious with a freshmen. I think LSU's heavy reliance on freshmen lately is why this is front and center.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:46 am to TigerDat
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In their defense, They need a coach to call for his head and Paul is the low hanging fruit since Miles is gone
The only appropriate one is Caldwell.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:50 am to BigEdLSU
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i'll play along. can you give me some more examples of this happening at other schools?
How about you do the research?
No one here is going to know that off the top of their heads unless they closely follow another program
Several people have posted examples, you reply with that’s only 1 or 2, we have “9 pitchers injured”
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:52 am to Dizz
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I think LSU's heavy reliance on freshmen lately is why this is front and center.
I think that's a good point.
I put together a spreadsheet to look at the experience level of each roster. I used years in the program as the metric, so a JUCO transfer and a freshman both were a zero. A senior was a 3, junior a 2, sophomore a 1. Redshirt years obviously counted as well.
Kind of a way to measure institutional knowledge on the roster.
This is going to shock you, but 2009 was our highest scoring roster. 2017 was second.
The overall correlation between the roster score and level of postseason success was about 75%.
It's why I don't like the forced attrition every year that pushes out 20% of the expected returnees every year.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:53 am to ElOsoBlanco7
So 200+ colleges, times 15 years (travel ball sydrome) is roughly 3000.
Only one other example out of 3000?
That's why I think it's not as normal as I'm being told.
Only one other example out of 3000?
That's why I think it's not as normal as I'm being told.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:53 am to LSUJML
I also remember the commentators saying Lamar was down like 7 pitchers. Georgia just lost their ace and aTm lost a weekend started and 2 bullpen guys I think. Not to mention the only pitchers currently injured that were injured at LSU are
Hill
Cole Henry? (Think this one is just precaution)
Hill
Cole Henry? (Think this one is just precaution)
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:57 am to 225Tyga
Injury updates
Re Watson
All of this was previously posted, thought the quote on Reid was funny
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The freshman infielder has been medically cleared to play as LSU prepares to face Alabama this weekend, LSU coach Paul Mainieri announced, and the skipper strongly hinted that Dugas will be in the lineup for the series opener Friday night.
Re Watson
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“The injury that he had, we think is ok now for him to be able to play,” Mainieri said. “It’s just that he’s caught a virus or the flu.”
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On the bright side, Chris Reid appears set to return to the starting lineup at this base this weekend. Reid has done everything in practice except run at a full sprint, and as Mainieri put it, speed isn’t exactly the biggest piece of Reid’s game anyway.
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The other development on the injury front is that sophomore infielder Hal Hughes will be limited this weekend coming off both a thumb injury and a collision. Hughes will likely only be used for defensive purposes, Mainieri said.
All of this was previously posted, thought the quote on Reid was funny
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:58 am to LSUJML
Not sure how I feel about him getting the start at third without taking a full sprint at all but...
That’s still pretty funny
That’s still pretty funny
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:59 am to LSUJML
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Reid has done everything in practice except run at a full sprint, and as Mainieri put it, speed isn’t exactly the biggest piece of Reid’s game anyway.
"Chris Reid runs really hard. He just doesn't run very fast." - Paul Mainieri
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:01 am to BigEdLSU
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i'm trying to be more openminded.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:01 am to BigEdLSU
It’s an issue across the board in college and pro baseball. Nobody knows what the underlying cause is. It could be travel ball it could also be that more pitchers are throwing harder than ever before. It could also be that it’s just more in the forefront now. Throwing a baseball is about the most unnatural thing to do to a persons body and it puts a lot of torque on a lot of places that can’t handle it.
In the case for Henry it seems he will be back next week. In that case he is basically just missing a start. That happened over the course of a major league season all the time with pitchers. It’s not very noticeable during a 162 game season but it is during a 30 game sec season. Just like Watson and Reid missing a weekend. In the majors it’s not noticeable for a player to miss three games but it is here.
In the case for Henry it seems he will be back next week. In that case he is basically just missing a start. That happened over the course of a major league season all the time with pitchers. It’s not very noticeable during a 162 game season but it is during a 30 game sec season. Just like Watson and Reid missing a weekend. In the majors it’s not noticeable for a player to miss three games but it is here.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:04 am to Terrific Tales
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Hill
Cole Henry? (Think this one is just precaution)
Beck
Costello
Fontenot
George
**Gilbert
Gunter
*Henry
Hess
Hill
Hilliard
Labas
Marceaux
McMurray
Peterson
Ripoll
Storz
Threadgill
Vietmeier
Walker
Bold are current pitchers not able to throw
Italic were injured previously & known they may or may not throw
*We don’t know if Henry is injured or just needs a week of rest.
**Gilbert is not injured, does not have his mechanics after TJ
**Off the top of my head, I don’t remember specifics on Labas & McMurray
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:05 am to LSUJML
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the skipper strongly hinted that Dugas will be in the lineup for the series opener Friday night.
would be awesome to get another, consistent right handed bat in the lineup. quote:
Mainieri put it, speed isn’t exactly the biggest piece of Reid’s game anyway.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:06 am to LSUJML
We only have 2 pitchers that are unavailable due to an injury* sustained at LSU?
*We don’t know if Henry is injured or just needs a week of rest.
*We don’t know if Henry is injured or just needs a week of rest.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:08 am to geauxtigers33
I'm openminded to this being the 'new normal', but until there are some studies done on the national average to support it, it's hard to just accept.
Assuming that having this many pitchers out is normal on a national level, why are parents even letting their kids pitch at all before puberty?
Assuming that having this many pitchers out is normal on a national level, why are parents even letting their kids pitch at all before puberty?
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