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re: Here is the NCAA rule and interpretation on the 3-second spike rule...Refs got it right
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:46 pm to AshLSU
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:46 pm to AshLSU
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Yes but not because “the time keeper didn’t stop the clock at the EXACT moment the ball was dead”.
On the play immediately prior to Lawrence's field goal, as the game clock ticked down Texas quarterback Colt McCoy rolled far to the right, with Nebraska's Ndamukong Suh in hot pursuit, and threw a pass well downfield and out of bounds. The game clock ran out, which would have ended the game, with Nebraska appearing to win 12–10. However, pursuant to Rule 12-3-6, the video replay official determined that an "egregious", and therefore reviewable, error concerning the game clock had occurred and ordered the errantly elapsed one second be returned to the clock. The ESPN/ABC video feed showed that McCoy's pass hit a stadium railing out of bounds with :01 left, allowing Texas to kick the winning field goal to advance to the BCS title game. This controversy has led to the game being called by some followers as One Second Left.
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You can not review every time the ball is dead if the clockeeper stopped the clock at the exact moment the ball is dead. If they did that, the game would take eternity.
They don’t do it every time. They do it in end of game situations. This isn’t the first time it’s happened. It’s not some conspiracy against lsu. The ball was dead when it hit the ground with :01 left on the clock.
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:50 pm to Chicken
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UPDATE: after further review, I believe the SEC refs (bless their hearts) got the call right
Tha fresh hell is this?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:11 pm to AshLSU
The problem on this play is that the ref blew it dead instead of letting the play go like they do most of the time this season. Because he called the pass incomplete and blew the play dead the only possible review scenarios would have been A&M ball at the spot of the fumble (?) or an incomplete pass.. which is why LSU didn't challenge.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:20 pm to bmy
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The problem on this play is that the ref blew it dead instead of letting the play go like they do most of the time this season. Because he called the pass incomplete and blew the play dead the only possible review scenarios would have been A&M ball at the spot of the fumble (?) or an incomplete pass.. which is why LSU didn't challenge.
Two things wrong with that.
1: Nobody signaled or blew a whistle until after it was picked up by our player. (I’ve watched it over and over)
2: Not blowing the ball dead in these situations was supposed to be a HUGE emphasis for the refs this season. They are supposed to let it play out and correct it later if needed. The FACT that he blew it dead (especially in the overly exaggerated manor in which he did it) is very suspect.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:38 pm to AshLSU
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Two things wrong with that.
1: Nobody signaled or blew a whistle until after it was picked up by our player. (I’ve watched it over and over)
2: Not blowing the ball dead in these situations was supposed to be a HUGE emphasis for the refs this season. They are supposed to let it play out and correct it later if needed. The FACT that he blew it dead (especially in the overly exaggerated manor in which he did it) is very suspect.
well as far as 1 goes.. the ref started to wave incomplete as soon as the ball left the WRs hands. he just had to get his hands off his knees
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:39 pm to theunknownknight
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exAgs has a complete replay with all the fluff removed.
But there is one discrepancy I noticed. Watch the play we all thought was not a 1st down. The Aggies ran up to the line with 13 seconds left and spiked the ball. 10 seconds remained. I don't know why they didn't put another second on the clock and made it 11 seconds.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:58 pm to labamafan
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an NFL official
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:59 pm to catnip
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But there is one discrepancy I noticed. Watch the play we all thought was not a 1st down. The Aggies ran up to the line with 13 seconds left and spiked the ball. 10 seconds remained. I don't know why they didn't put another second on the clock and made it 11 seconds.
That was different man.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:00 pm to catnip
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I don't know why they didn't put another second on the clock and made it 11 seconds.
because not every spike takes the exact same amount of time
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:08 pm to AshLSU
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Yes but not because “the time keeper didn’t stop the clock at the EXACT moment the ball was dead”.
actually, that’s exactly what happened.
they reviewed and ball hit something out of bounds with 1 second left.
that’s exactly what happened Saturday too, except ballnhit ground instead of a railing.
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You can not review every time the ball is dead if the clockeeper stopped the clock at the exact moment the ball is dead. If they did that, the game would take eternity.
actually. you have the right to review that at anytime you want in a game.
it only makes sense to do it in crucial spots, which is why it isn’t done more often.
but in reality, if you wanted to challenge that there was actuall 14:51 left on clock after opening kickoff in 1st quarter instead of 14:49, you can.
don’t know why you would, but the rules allow you to do so.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:15 pm to Nutriaitch
never mind, i’m wrong.
can only happen at end of a quarter when time runs out.
can only happen at end of a quarter when time runs out.
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If at the end of any quarter the game clock expires, either during a down in which it should be stopped by rule through play when the ball becomes dead or after the down upon a request for an available team timeout, the replay official may restore time only under these conditions:
1. The replay official has indisputable video evidence that time should have remained on the game clock when the ball became dead or when the team timeout was granted;
2. In the second and fourth quarters only, the team to which the ball would belong after it becomes dead would next put the ball in play from scrimmage (not the try) ;
3. In the fourth quarter only, either the score is tied or the team that will next snap the ball is behind by eight points or fewer
4. The replay official’s video evidence includes the timeout signal by an official in the case where the game clock should have stopped for a requested team timeout.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:24 pm to themunch
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That was different man.
I was being facetious. Sorry I shouldn't have led you on like that. Of course it was different. And not all spikes take the same amount of time. Some .1 seconds. Depends.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:37 pm to Chicken
Synopsis of the controversial calls against LSU:
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:19 pm to Open Your Eyes
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They don’t do it every time. They do it in end of game situations.
Why are "end of game" situations privileged over every other game situation?
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