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Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:56 pm to jrodLSUke
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I can't agree with that at all. I saw Marcus and JJ both play in the Cotton Bowl. Both of which had championship talent around them and JJ was the clearly the better QB and athlete.
awesome comparison my man. one game eight years apart vs. a different opponent. that texas team would have kicked the shite out of A&M in 2010. they were loaded. Randall was an average QB-JJ is not average.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:56 pm to memphis tiger
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Runner JJ
DO NOT THINK SO
+1.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 4:06 pm to jrodLSUke
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I'd take JJ based on that performance; and the reports of his improvment; and his potential to have a great senior year over Marcus.
JJ plays great when he has a month to prepare
at least Randall was somewhat consistent week to week.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 4:07 pm to NIH
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awesome comparison my man. one game eight years apart vs. a different opponent.
Interesting: I can't make a comparison from a game played years ago...
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that texas team would have kicked the shite out of A&M in 2010. they were loaded.
...but apparently you can.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 4:10 pm to Lester Earl
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JJ plays great when he has a month to prepare... at least Randall was somewhat consistent week to week.
True that. You'll get no argument from me.
If JJ would just find a consistent level of play throughout the year, the offense would improve. I just happen to feel it will happen.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 4:36 pm to Rudy40
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Yea neither Marcus nor JJ is who you would want running the LSU offense but given the choice of one or the other I think Marcus would be the best of two evils due to his leadership and presence.
Again, that is a really tough one. JJ has shown flashes of being a competent QB, but has been really really really bad at times. I don't think Randle has ever played as bad as JJ has at times, but he never played as well as JJ has at times either.
If pressed for a decision... Damn!... I guess I'd have to go with... JJ. Just for the potential that he would maybe possibly at some point have a decent game.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 5:07 pm to JudgeBoyett
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a friggen idiot. But then our fanbase is full of them.
The judge has spoken........
Posted on 5/16/11 at 5:09 pm to jrodLSUke
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If JJ would just find a consistent level of play throughout the year, the offense would improve. I just happen to feel it will happen.
I hope you are correct!
Posted on 5/16/11 at 5:21 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
while Herb was one of LSU's all time better QB's, I would have to go with JJ. Better passer, more athletic, can slip out the pocket and take off with the ball better. I would give the edge in leadership to Herb so far, but all reports are that JJ is turning it around in that department as well. I loved Herb Tyler as a QB at LSU in his day, but I got to go with JJ overall.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 5:24 pm to secman12
Anyone saying JJ was not around or didnt watch Tyler play. This isnt even close.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 5:59 pm to Words
Yup. Herb was a leader that inspired confidence running the team. I hold my breath practically everytime JJ takes a snap and steps back to pass.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 6:02 pm to Words
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Anyone saying JJ was not around or didnt watch Tyler play. This isnt even close.
Absolutely.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 6:23 pm to JudgeBoyett
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I'd take JJ based on that performance; and the reports of his improvment; and his potential to have a great senior year over Marcus.
Uh against Texas Randle ran for over 100 yards in the first half and threw for over a hundred as well. He pulled a hammy or a groin on a 76 yard run at end of first half and played the 2nd half on one leg. Led the LSU offense to 441 total yards against a very talented Texas defense.
Not to mention leading LSU from a 14-0 deficit to a 24-21 victory over Florida in the Swamp in 2004.
Again the thread was Herb Tyler vs JJ which is a slam dunk for Herb but a more apt comparison for JJ is Randle even there he falls short. As for the reports of his improvement I think they may be similiar to the reports of all these fans wanting Sparacino over Tyler in 1996, not much substance to them.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 8:13 pm to TigerBait1127
Herb was a better leader as a freshman than JJ in his 3rd year on the field.
JJ does not have less to work with. LSU has never recruited better talent than the last decade. JJ brings talent around him down to his level.
JJ does not have less to work with. LSU has never recruited better talent than the last decade. JJ brings talent around him down to his level.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 8:55 pm to Cajun Revolution
Herb Tyler at QB would have had LSU playing for the national championship the last 2 years. You are comparing apples to carrots or something.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 8:55 pm to Paulu
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Herb was a better leader as a freshman than JJ in his 3rd year on the field.
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JJ does not have less to work with. LSU has never recruited better talent than the last decade. JJ brings talent around him down to his level.
+100000000000000000
Posted on 5/16/11 at 8:58 pm to Lester Earl
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at least Randall was somewhat consistent week to week.
Consistently bad?
Posted on 5/16/11 at 9:03 pm to boxcar willie
I'm not sure how people can say Jefferson is more athletic. He is bigger and stronger and may even have better straight line speed, but is isn't like Tyler was some stiff back there. Can anyone honestly see Jefferson making a run reminiscent of Tyler's run against Florida in 97? Jefferson is like a cow on ice when he has to start making cuts.
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